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Permalink Reply by Ruth Bonnett on October 20, 2011 at 4:02am

Wayne, your comments run very close to being against the terms of service for this public forum.  You must not post comments with the intention of inciting the commission of unlawful acts. 

 

Consider this public forum like a normal pub, with a twist.   Everything you say gets repeated by the town crier, many times a day.

 

I can't get behind your eyeballs Wayne and determine your intent for posting the comments about the Labor government, trespassers and setting fires, 

And I am loathe to delete this important discussion.

I ask you to consider your words, and help kick the tin along by talking to your mates in the city.  Help them understand what is happening in the bush. 

I don't have an 'edit' button.  I can 'delete' this forum  topic with fair warning if the language used runs against the terms of use.

I don't want to shut this room in the pub, Wayne.  You can do your bit to help keep this important discussion going.

Thanks.

 

I would encourage readers to look at the discussion in the PRA group here.

Permalink Reply by Dale Stiller on October 20, 2011 at 6:03am

From The Courier Mail, Anna Bligh has sold out Queensland, says radio broadcaster Alan Jones [click here]

BROADCASTER Alan Jones has called for Anna Bligh's scalp, accusing the Queensland Premier of selling out her state's prime farming land to mining companies.

In a speech to the National Press Club in Canberra today, Jones said food security was the biggest issue facing Australia's future.

Ms Bligh and her Treasurer Andrew Fraser should be asked to stand down for their addictions to mining royalties, the Sydney-based commentator said.

"The mining industry is the Upper House of Queensland - nothing happens without their approval," he said.

 

......"Farmers are being invaded," Jones said, adding that many were bullied into selling their land and forced to sign confidentiality agreements.

"Our politicians have forgotten they are servants not masters."

He also took aim at the leaders of the Queensland Liberal National Party, Campbell Newman and Jeff Seeney, for lunching with gas company executives and employing former mining company staff.

Eighty per cent of their home state was under mining exploration permits, Jones said.

"Don't destroy farmers to pay the bill, Anna Bligh," he said.

Jones mocked the Queensland Government's recent vow to protect prime agricultural land, with strategic cropping land legislation, labelling it "false sincerity".

 

.....Mr Jones said 7000 gas wells at one Queensland site could produce enough salt to raise a pile "10 metres high and 11 kilometres long."

There are going to be 40,000 wells in Queensland, he said.

Permalink Reply by Wayne Robert Smith on October 20, 2011 at 9:39am

"Wayne, your comments run very close to being against the terms of service for this public forum."

 

Only close to. I said that it SHOULD be legal. An opinion. I've heard Bob Katter make more spirited threats than that regarding cutting candidates toes off. I only WONDERED what it would look like if a methane well was set alight.

 

I've heard people in Tara pub discussing the subject in more detail than that. People out west are frustrated and mad as hell. Frankly I wouldn't blame them if they took the law into their own hands at this point. You can only bully country folk for so long before you end up with a revolt on your hands.

 

Alan Jones got me a bit fired up. I apologise for getting a bit carried away. Talk of taking Anna Bligh's scalp brought back a lot of resentment. My bit of scrub out west is all I own and until it happens to you its hard to conceive of how infuriating it is to have mining companies try and steal your land. I'm still in limbo right now. Uncertain whether they will put gas infrastructure on my place or not. I was told on the 30th floor of the QGC building in George Street that they have no "immediate" plans. But that could change on a whim.

 

Alan Jones is very popular in the countryside. Popular all over the country in fact. This is another nail in Anna Blighs coffin(speaking figuratively). I'm just worried the die hard labor supporters could still get her over the line on the primary vote if the conservative vote suffers a three way split between Katter, TQP and the LNP.

Permalink Reply by Ruth Bonnett on October 20, 2011 at 3:45pm

Permalink Reply by Ruth Bonnett on October 21, 2011 at 9:22am

Hi Wayne,

I take an interest in what is happening in the bush.  I became a member of this community when I became aware of Peter Spencer's case, and have met quite a few landowners which have been affected by the Vegetation Management Act.  I also attended a recent meeting in Roma where I met farmers affected by Coal Seam Gas exploration and the natural conflict between the surface rights of the landowner and the mineral rights of the state.

 

 

Permalink Reply by Wayne Robert Smith on October 22, 2011 at 6:34pm

Those mineral rights get everyone bent out of shape. If you own land then you should own what is under it all the way to the earths core in my book. Nowadays many land holders don't even have a right to the water on their property. Atleast the CSG industry is going to get a savage kick in the guts come March. I told them so in their head office in George street. Captain Bligh hasn't a hope of winning and all the other parties are jumping aboard the anti-csg bandwagon so the greedy land thieves will lose billions. The only thing that hurts them is profit loss. Suffer you corporate parasites.

 

I've noticed that Katter hasn't yet found a candidate for Warrego. There and up north is where his strongest electorate support lies. How does a person throw their hat in the ring as a candidate for TQP Ruth? I'm not sure I'd be much use as a polly but the LNP and Labour are dirty words out west right now. If you can't find anyone willing to stand there then you can put my name down if you like. Just so there is another option other than the two party race everyone in the darling downs is sick of.

Permalink Reply by Beverley Prescott on November 4, 2011 at 1:20pm

 

It should be legal to shoot trespassers in this country.

 

Wayne, I am just catching up on these discussions and reading them in no particular order.  However, I have just finished reading the "Katter the Bully" one and then I came to this one where you want to shoot trespassers.

It seems ironical to read the two close together.

Permalink Reply by Wayne Robert Smith on November 13, 2011 at 11:22am

Hi Bev. I'm old fashioned. In school I was the kid who bullied the bullies. I can't stand thugs who pick on smaller individuals or those of a lower social standing. Its cowardly and yet that seems to be how our society works. No different to the pecking order of chickens.

 

That said however, a person has a right to be left alone on their own property after working long years to buy it. A persons home is their castle. If someone invades our country we expect our military to kill them. Why shouldn't that right to defend property extend to individual citizens? Nowadays home invaders seem to have more rights than the terrified victims of their crimes. Elderly people are being taken to court for defending themselves against punks breaking into their homes to rob and possibly rape or murder them.

 

Now Anna Bligh is giving away peoples property to the biggest land thieves in the world. As far as I'm concerned the CSG mob are feral animals and I wish I could legally shoot them on sight.

Permalink Reply by Beverley Prescott on November 13, 2011 at 12:15pm

I agree everyone should be allowed to protect their own property.

This country is going down a very sad road and I despair to think about the future.

There is not much incentive for people to work hard these days.  These thieves seem to want to make life difficult for those who only want to lead a normal life to make enough to live on comfortably.

Something is drastically wrong with our leaders in this country - how have we lost all the good old politicians who saw hard work as something to which ti aspire?

As for a person who protects their own property to end up either in jail or with a fine is totally ludicrous!!

(I certainly wasn't having a go at you, Wayne  - only the way I read the discussion through all at once, made it amusing - to me anyway - doesn't take much to amuse me - LOL).

 

 

Wayne Robert Smith said:

Hi Bev. I'm old fashioned. In school I was the kid who bullied the bullies. I can't stand thugs who pick on smaller individuals or those of a lower social standing. Its cowardly and yet that seems to be how our society works. No different to the pecking order of chickens.

 

That said however, a person has a right to be left alone on their own property after working long years to buy it. A persons home is their castle. If someone invades our country we expect our military to kill them. Why shouldn't that right to defend property extend to individual citizens? Nowadays home invaders seem to have more rights than the terrified victims of their crimes. Elderly people are being taken to court for defending themselves against punks breaking into their homes to rob and possibly rape or murder them.

 

Now Anna Bligh is giving away peoples property to the biggest land thieves in the world. As far as I'm concerned the CSG mob are feral animals and I wish I could legally shoot them on sight.