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Permalink Reply by Rae Billett on March 29, 2011 at 4:37pm

Opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull failed to win support for three amendments on wholesale arrangments, competition and FOI scrutiny and Nationals MP Luke Hartsuyker lost a bid to include uniform pricing.

 

The Telegraph reported that the Independents split, as Bob Katter said the NBN was important for rural Australia (really?) Tony Windsor challenged the Nationals (as one would expect) to declare their support and Rob Oakeshott said the Coalition was just "getting up to mischief" (what?). Mr. Windsor said the health and hospitals fund, part of his deal with Labor was "delivering needed services to the country" (already?)!

 

Personally I can't see where they split on anything. But now I know where Julia has been  while every one's attention has been elsewhere.   And yes Telstra shares are up today, and we know why.

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Permalink Reply by Matt Thompson on March 29, 2011 at 5:55pm

Not Bloody Necessary

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Permalink Reply by Rae Billett on March 29, 2011 at 6:45pm

And very sneaky. While attention is drawn away the rats will play.

Matt Thompson said:

Not Bloody Necessary

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Permalink Reply by Laurel Ender on March 30, 2011 at 1:30am

and the special deals done will be adding to  the poverty of us all!

telstra and optus b******* they wont have any monopolies? yeah sure.

its fit for the tip, and we will be forced to use it in any new homes.

and as soon as they can let the copper system decay enough, working on it hard now.. theyll pull the pin and force the rest of us to use it.

same as digital tv and radio.

how many millions of radios will be thrown out?

what cost to us?

avg is 80 I see.

and all that waste..

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Permalink Reply by Rae Billett on March 30, 2011 at 4:55pm

I wonder John how far down the line this will be in 2 years, come election mode federally. I can't believe it would be too far gone.  Or would it?

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Permalink Reply by Laurel Ender on March 31, 2011 at 12:29am

they have signed agrrement already with proposed suppliers.

so

to break those contracts...would cost a motza!

 

and thats what they'll squeal  loudly about, if it gets put on Ice while its examined.

rather than admitting they had No right to presign before it was approved or finalised.

 

Rae Billett said:

I wonder John how far down the line this will be in 2 years, come election mode federally. I can't believe it would be too far gone.  Or would it?

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Permalink Reply by John Richardson on March 31, 2011 at 12:05pm

NBN.........Not Bloody Needed

 

Australians should realize the many reasons that the communist joo LIER federal government is so RABIDLY persuing this project....

 

1 It will allow censorship of the internet in Australia and put a stop to free speech

2 It will allow, in conjunction with these "smart" (EVIL) meters, the remote control of every electrical appliance in your home. They will decide when you can use your fridge, stove, hot water, tv, etc etc........

 

This NBN must be stopped!!!!!!!!

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Permalink Reply by John Richardson on March 31, 2011 at 12:11pm

With technology like the following why is there being $43 BILLION DOLLARS wasted on this NBN using optical fibre cable????

 

http://www.csiro.au/news/Rural-broadband-wireless.html

 

WIRELESS IS THE FUTURE!!

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Permalink Reply by Rae Billett on February 24, 2012 at 1:47pm

Why is it nobody's mentioning the NBN in the present leadership battle? Could it be because it is a huge waste of time and money?

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Permalink Reply by Phillip Watson on February 24, 2012 at 5:40pm

Because both Gillard and Rudd support it, along with a huge majority of the public? According to the latest public poll on the issue from Essential Media, supporters of the NBN outnumber opposers by 2:1, and even coalition supporters are evenly split now:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/aussies-support-nbn-...

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/broadband-wins-con...

There's also a growing list of countries (over 60 now) from around the World rolling out similar networks. Israel and the UK are the latest to make announcements over the last couple of months, and Google have started rolling their fibre out in the USA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_to_the_premises_by_country

And growing concerns about the future stability of wireless networks:

http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/21/technology/spectrum_crunch/

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Permalink Reply by Rae Billett on February 25, 2012 at 10:48am

The poll was of just over 1000 people...hello not exactly a representative number. 

 

They can try to sell it any way they want but people are not taking it up. They want wireless. I don't particularly but most do.

 

However I see it as an all time great waste of money and I do believe I am not the only one. AND it will be expensive.

 

 Phillip Watson said:

Because both Gillard and Rudd support it, along with a huge majority of the public? According to the latest public poll on the issue from Essential Media, supporters of the NBN outnumber opposers by 2:1, and even coalition supporters are evenly split now:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/aussies-support-nbn-...

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/broadband-wins-con...

There's also a growing list of countries (over 60 now) from around the World rolling out similar networks. Israel and the UK are the latest to make announcements over the last couple of months, and Google have started rolling their fibre out in the USA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_to_the_premises_by_country

And growing concerns about the future stability of wireless networks:

http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/21/technology/spectrum_crunch/

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Permalink Reply by Jan Courtney on February 25, 2012 at 10:50am

 

Really !!!!!!!

 

Your mate Malcolm doesn't seem to think it's viable:

http://www.liberal.org.au/Latest-News/2011/12/08/Warning-Signs-at-N...

 

By now I suspect our key criticisms are familiar:

• The NBN is expensive. Completing the network and moving customers onto it will cost $50 billion and very likely more. More capital inevitably means higher prices for consumers and businesses. Most users have no near-term use for the high speeds a fibre to the premises (FTTP) network can deliver, and international experience tells us the few who do will not pay much of a premium. So the increased cost of the network won’t be shouldered mainly by those who take advantage of its capabilities; they will be spread across all users.

• The NBN is anti-competitive. As it is rolled out, three existing networks – Telstra’s copper, the Optus HFC cable network, and Telstra’s HFC network – will no longer be permitted to carry voice or broadband, and the first two will be decommissioned. This is economically wasteful and harmful to competition. But it no doubt will prove helpful to an over-capitalized government monopoly keen to recover its costs.

• The NBN will take years to rectify every area with substandard broadband. Much of Australia has good communications infrastructure but not all; at least 2 million premises cannot access broadband or are constrained by limited speeds. Given the scale and logistical complexity of the NBN rollout, it will take a decade to reach all of them even if it rolls out on schedule.

• And the NBN puts the Government back in a conflicted position as the owner of a large player (that at some stage will likely be privatized) in a market it regulates.

Broadly these were our objections when the current version of the NBN and its startling price tag were unveiled in April 2009. In the two and a half years since, none has been adequately answered by Senator Conroy or any other devotee of Labor’s current policy.

 

 

 

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