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Permalink Reply by Rory Donnellan on February 3, 2010 at 1:36pm

Seems like there are 3 things we can never escape - death, taxes and bureaucratic belligerence.

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Permalink Reply by John Modra on February 4, 2010 at 1:37pm

My apologies if i am not Clear -i was quoting the dummies . Clearly the ETS is a bomb -a car with no wheels as described on plenty of my sites - Enjoy reading your stuff Geoff - if you want to know where i am coming from look me up on facebook .As an env risk assessor I haven't always supported the innovator in AGric . I was paid to be objective and i think thats useful in this situation .

If Ag mates is only a refuge for defending everything farmers do , we are not helping them . The public and our polys desperately need something OBJECTIVE something other than eco speak ( trees, solar panels ,sequestration, landcare ) as do rural producers . At the moment much good ( where and when )about these is lost in mass innoculation and tokenism ( by both parties - you would leave politicians in charge of your land would you - Ag producers need to know who they can trust - hence the idea of a list of websites who claim objective science questions and answers .

Maybe one of our discussion forums should be
I just want to talk to someone who makes some sense on the environment.

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