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I thought I might resurrect this discussion once more in light of the deliberate leak of information to a person linked to the Aboriginal tent embassy protest group from the office of the Prime Minister on Australia Day, leading to the protest by Aboriginal activists.
The press should also see themselves as being used to achieve an end.
Permalink Reply by Rae Billett on April 4, 2012 at 8:10am
Permalink Reply by Rae Billett on April 4, 2012 at 8:24am Would anyone be surprised that the tender for the Australian Network was a balls up! Gillard and Conroy over rode the whole proper process.
It has to be wondered why it occurred but it was Rudd who proposed the tender process then because Gillard and Rudd were fighting a war and they stabbed Rudd, the tender was brought into the fight and Conroy was given the power by Gillard to wield the stick so he simply scrapped the tender process and awarded the tender to the ABC who was not the preferred tenderer.........WTF WAS THE POINT IN THE FIRST PLACE!
ANOTHER WASTE OF TAYPAYERS MONEY! And SKY has been paid off with tax-payers money.
When will it end? 17 months to go and they will be looking for other jobs.
Permalink Reply by vivienne skeen on April 4, 2012 at 9:08am Love the last line, I have highlighted, so very true.
From Bolts Blog this morning:
How could anyone safely do business with this government?
Let’s review.
Miners who invested here in good faith are suddenly threatened, without consultation, with a huge super-profits tax.
Newspapers which hold the government to account are threatened with a media inquiry and new laws to stifle them.
A company which twice wins a tendering process for a government service still loses.
A leading mining entrepreneur who was once a government favorite is vilified as greedy, anti-social, irresponsible and a ”poison” for opposing a government tax.
An investigation into the alleged misuse of a union credit card by a Labor backbencher takes an astonishing three years and counting, allowing him to keep propping up the Government.
There’s a reason it sometimes feels this country is in the hands of cheap gangsters.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/c...
Rae Billett said:
Would anyone be surprised that the tender for the Australian Network was a balls up! Gillard and Conroy over rode the whole proper process.
It has to be wondered why it occurred but it was Rudd who proposed the tender process then because Gillard and Rudd were fighting a war and they stabbed Rudd, the tender was brought into the fight and Conroy was given the power by Gillard to wield the stick so he simply scrapped the tender process and awarded the tender to the ABC who was not the preferred tenderer.........WTF WAS THE POINT IN THE FIRST PLACE!
ANOTHER WASTE OF TAYPAYERS MONEY! And SKY has been paid off with tax-payers money.
When will it end? 17 months to go and they will be looking for other jobs.
Permalink Reply by Beverley Prescott on April 4, 2012 at 5:25pm Rae and Vivienne,
I cannot understand how this mob are allowed to get away with what they are. The media (all except the odd couple such as Andrew Bolt and the likes) doesn't seem to mind while the Labor mob aided by the Independents are causing such a mess of things.
Can you name one plan that has gone right for them?
At every turn, there is another catastrophe.
There are no words for them.
If it were Tony Abbott or any of the opposition doing one thing out of place, they would be calling for blood.
I just don't get why someone in authority hasn't been able to step in to save Australia from this mob.
vivienne skeen said:
Love the last line, I have highlighted, so very true.
From Bolts Blog this morning:
How could anyone safely do business with this government?
Let’s review.
Miners who invested here in good faith are suddenly threatened, without consultation, with a huge super-profits tax.
Newspapers which hold the government to account are threatened with a media inquiry and new laws to stifle them.
A company which twice wins a tendering process for a government service still loses.
A leading mining entrepreneur who was once a government favorite is vilified as greedy, anti-social, irresponsible and a ”poison” for opposing a government tax.
An investigation into the alleged misuse of a union credit card by a Labor backbencher takes an astonishing three years and counting, allowing him to keep propping up the Government.
There’s a reason it sometimes feels this country is in the hands of cheap gangsters.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/c...
Rae Billett said:Would anyone be surprised that the tender for the Australian Network was a balls up! Gillard and Conroy over rode the whole proper process.
It has to be wondered why it occurred but it was Rudd who proposed the tender process then because Gillard and Rudd were fighting a war and they stabbed Rudd, the tender was brought into the fight and Conroy was given the power by Gillard to wield the stick so he simply scrapped the tender process and awarded the tender to the ABC who was not the preferred tenderer.........WTF WAS THE POINT IN THE FIRST PLACE!
ANOTHER WASTE OF TAYPAYERS MONEY! And SKY has been paid off with tax-payers money.
When will it end? 17 months to go and they will be looking for other jobs.
Permalink Reply by vivienne skeen on April 4, 2012 at 6:59pm Hi Bev,
My thoughts exactly, I feel that we are in a rudderless boat with a mob of idiots at the helm and the seas are raging. But all of these things are small fry compared to the big picture that is slowly strangling us.
As much as I have wanted to deny it for such a long time. There is a plan to bring the western countries to their knees, in every way possible. That plan is in full swing. So for this Labor Government they think they can do as they like, because there is no one to bring them to account.
The media are useless, apart from a few, as you say. But even they know there is a limit to what they can say.
Beverley Prescott said:
Rae and Vivienne,
I cannot understand how this mob are allowed to get away with what they are. The media (all except the odd couple such as Andrew Bolt and the likes) doesn't seem to mind while the Labor mob aided by the Independents are causing such a mess of things.
Can you name one plan that has gone right for them?
At every turn, there is another catastrophe.
There are no words for them.
If it were Tony Abbott or any of the opposition doing one thing out of place, they would be calling for blood.
I just don't get why someone in authority hasn't been able to step in to save Australia from this mob.
vivienne skeen said:Love the last line, I have highlighted, so very true.
From Bolts Blog this morning:
How could anyone safely do business with this government?
Let’s review.
Miners who invested here in good faith are suddenly threatened, without consultation, with a huge super-profits tax.
Newspapers which hold the government to account are threatened with a media inquiry and new laws to stifle them.
A company which twice wins a tendering process for a government service still loses.
A leading mining entrepreneur who was once a government favorite is vilified as greedy, anti-social, irresponsible and a ”poison” for opposing a government tax.
An investigation into the alleged misuse of a union credit card by a Labor backbencher takes an astonishing three years and counting, allowing him to keep propping up the Government.
There’s a reason it sometimes feels this country is in the hands of cheap gangsters.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/c...
Rae Billett said:Would anyone be surprised that the tender for the Australian Network was a balls up! Gillard and Conroy over rode the whole proper process.
It has to be wondered why it occurred but it was Rudd who proposed the tender process then because Gillard and Rudd were fighting a war and they stabbed Rudd, the tender was brought into the fight and Conroy was given the power by Gillard to wield the stick so he simply scrapped the tender process and awarded the tender to the ABC who was not the preferred tenderer.........WTF WAS THE POINT IN THE FIRST PLACE!
ANOTHER WASTE OF TAYPAYERS MONEY! And SKY has been paid off with tax-payers money.
When will it end? 17 months to go and they will be looking for other jobs.
Permalink Reply by alan mikkelsen on April 4, 2012 at 8:45pm Bev and Vivienne, I have met Andrew Bolt a few times over the years, had private chats with him (not that I would expect him to remember much of that), and I think he is a top, sincere young (well, in a relative sense :-) guy. And quite humble, while still being personable / likeable.
Opinion - wise though, the reality is that many of the voters out there regard him, and Alan Jones (particularly the latter) as ......... (Fill in your own pejorative phrase, featuring redneck, ratbag, shockjock, right - wing liar ........ They themselves certainly know what I mean). How many left wingers do you think watch the Bolt Report on Ch 10? Count 'em on your fingers? But they flock to Meet the Press with Paul B's generally left of centre 'panel', moments afterwards. Piers Akerman, Terry McCrann and (bless him), the Aunty's Chris Uhlmann probably have more useful influence on potentially changeable voters by a mile over the other two, IMHO.
Luckily for we longers for the return of Good Government again (remember Jan's "Missing Me Yet?" John Howard postcard?), J Gillard and Co seem to be doing an admirable job of own foot shooting at present, don't they?
Cheers bro' al
Permalink Reply by Beverley Prescott on April 19, 2012 at 10:20am Where do reporters get these ideas??? Barnaby explains re the baby bonus reporting.
Please find below an opinion piece written by Senator Joyce published in The Canberra Times 19 April 2012.
Baby-bonus brouhaha became a brain-teaser
It became quite apparent that the journalist was trying to contact me. There had been two phone calls, and a text message, rather Alice in Wonderland like, saying “please call me.”
So, in respect of the public’s right to know, down the rabbit hole we went. She asked the question, "Do you support your party's baby bonus policy?" I will confess, I didn't know what our baby bonus policy was or, rather more pointedly, didn't know we had one. Ah, here lies the trap I thought, there will be an article written about me, "Barnaby unaware of Nationals baby bonus policy".
I tried the usual political evasiveness. I told her that babies are wonderful, that they are our "most important resource", that the Nationals support, indeed have always supported, babies and, in particular, supports those most inclined to have babies, women.
She then went on to tell me that our policy was to double the baby bonus. That took me back a step, because the reality is that the original baby bonus, which was paid as a lump sum, was a ridiculous policy that caused immense damage.
Sending $5000, in a lump sum, to a household experiencing problems, such as alcohol or drug addiction, was not a solution but a disaster.
Last week I visited areas where these social problems are quite apparent by the green cans adorned with two initials on the front lawns of indigenous housing in one of our most remote areas. No doubt the same problems exists in the non-indigenous areas of some of our urban centres.
The journalist accused me of mumbling and I was. I was desperately, with the phone to my ear, trying to think where and when this policy came about. Anyway she had me. I was girding my loins for the inevitable banner.
However, the next day the banner didn't decry my ignorance, in fact, it proclaimed my effusive endorsement with the headline "The big push for $10,000 baby bonus by Nationals MP Barnaby Joyce".
The article went on to say that I had been pushing Tony Abbott to double the baby bonus.
I must admit this was news, especially to me. Not at any anytime, sober or otherwise, have I ever broached the topic of doubling the baby bonus with Tony Abbott, and there was certainly nothing that I had said to the journalist that could possibly be interpreted that I personally was pushing for it.
Editorials were written, it was time for me to be “put back in a box" which, on this topic, I had never crawled out of.
Whilst I was sleeping a poor Treasury clerk had been jerked out of the Holy Grail and sent to work to open Microsoft Excel and cost my policy which I remained happily oblivious to.
Then on the back of my presumed maternal benevolence came a retinue of forthright condemnation by a whole bevy of media commentators, government ministers and colleagues of an idea that I never had. I was tempted to join the congo line myself, "Barnaby condemns Joyce". Later in the day I did.
After putting out a statement denying that I had ever lobbied Tony Abbott on doubling of the baby bonus, some emails from constituents, who perhaps paid more attention to Insiders than my media statement, replied asking whether I had lost my marbles and why did I now advocate a doubling of the baby bonus.
The next day despite my attempts to douse the flames, created by my friendly incendiary scribe, I had to deal with the headlines that "Joyce backflips on baby bonus position" with a sneering incredulity on the subject of whether I had in fact lobbied Tony Abbott to double the baby bonus.
Two days later it was my "apparent" position. Like dog poo on the carpet, this smell just didn't seem to want to go away.
The question of course is where did this story come from? I know the journalist is competent so she would not have just made it up. It is highly unlikely that she would have believed the Labor party if they had said that I had been lobbying Tony Abbott. How would they know? So where did this credible source come from?
Anyway, I have had curt exchanges via email with the journalist concerned, and even though we still "adore" one another we have decided not to talk to each other for a little while.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/opinion/politics/babybonus-brouhaha-became-a-brainteaser-20120418-1x7fh.html
Permalink Reply by Jan Courtney on April 19, 2012 at 10:28am Hi Bev, you just beat me to posting the same thing. It just goes to show how wrong reports in the media can be, and/or how words or meanings can be twisted to suit the writer's own bias and turned into something that is absolutely NOT what the interviewee has stated.
Permalink Reply by alan mikkelsen on April 19, 2012 at 11:33am I wonder if Jonathan Holmes will take his ABC (Insiders) colleagues to task, on Media Watch? Oops, was that Escadrille Piggies doing a low fly over again?
Cheers bro' al
Permalink Reply by Jan Courtney on April 19, 2012 at 11:52am
YEP

Permalink Reply by Rae Billett on April 19, 2012 at 1:47pm Indeed , what they cannot get any other way, they make up. I think Barnaby should name the journalist. It is simply not good enough.
I wondered about that story, it didn't seem like something Barnaby Joyce would pitch for.
Personally I think the baby bonus is ludicrous, always have.
Permalink Reply by Rae Billett on April 19, 2012 at 1:59pm I agree with what you say Al. However, Alan Jones has an enormous following all over Sydney and south to the border, north to the border and further and west to goodness knows where. His listening audience is huge.
All I can say is this, Alan Jones can and does change voting behaviour and any government who gets him off side as this federal one has done lives to regret it. He will not abide ineptitude, waste and stupidity in any government state or federal and if this Liberal Government in NSW does not pick up it's act soon they also will reget it.
He doesn't pick sides, he goes with those who do it right and shafts those who do it WRONG. That is why many politicitans hate him. Jones tells it like it is, as does Bolt. Piers Ackerman is a bit too one-eyed for my liking although I agree with much of what he says on the carbon dioxide tax.
alan mikkelsen said:
Bev and Vivienne, I have met Andrew Bolt a few times over the years, had private chats with him (not that I would expect him to remember much of that), and I think he is a top, sincere young (well, in a relative sense :-) guy. And quite humble, while still being personable / likeable.
Opinion - wise though, the reality is that many of the voters out there regard him, and Alan Jones (particularly the latter) as ......... (Fill in your own pejorative phrase, featuring redneck, ratbag, shockjock, right - wing liar ........ They themselves certainly know what I mean). How many left wingers do you think watch the Bolt Report on Ch 10? Count 'em on your fingers? But they flock to Meet the Press with Paul B's generally left of centre 'panel', moments afterwards. Piers Akerman, Terry McCrann and (bless him), the Aunty's Chris Uhlmann probably have more useful influence on potentially changeable voters by a mile over the other two, IMHO.
Luckily for we longers for the return of Good Government again (remember Jan's "Missing Me Yet?" John Howard postcard?), J Gillard and Co seem to be doing an admirable job of own foot shooting at present, don't they?
Cheers bro' al
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