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Permalink Reply by Bob Stewart on July 22, 2011 at 7:16pm

Rae,

 

No one talks any more about the issues that prepare children to understand the reality they will face. Least of all any politician that I have watched or heard.

An empty shallow lot in Government with little life experience to act as custodians of the Nation or any sense of duty to do so. Just childish gamesmanship

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Laurel Ender on July 23, 2011 at 2:55am

well, Murdochs control of our media HAS affected things greatly.

its how free speech has been killed off here.

see news adelaide online censors heavily.

anything their agenda doesnt approve of ie carbon truth not warmist lies.

and hes so pallly with so many pollies.

did anyone see who funded Ohbummer so heavily?

yeah  murdoch!

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Permalink Reply by Jan Courtney on July 23, 2011 at 1:24pm

Laurel -  are your certain you are not confusing the Murdoch press with Fairfax ?

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Permalink Reply by Rae Billett on July 24, 2011 at 7:17pm

The thing is Murdoch does not tell journos what to write (as if they would submit to being told what to write) as Bob Brown and Julia Gillard would like us believe.

 

Free speech is an issue here in this country right now. Murdoch's problems in England are a different thing entirely. What happens in Adelaide would be up to the editors one would imagine. I have the feeling they are putting this issue up to deflect from the real issue and that, as we all know, is the CO2 emissions trading tax.

 

If the present government had it's way journalists would have not be able to write anything negative about their present policies and their unbelieable stuff-ups. That is wrong. We would be getting only one side and that would consist of the ABC's left wing propaganda. 

 

Nobody has to like the Murdoch Press or the Fairfax Press - you buy whatever paper suits you  and read whatever journalists and stories you prefer. Personally I read all the journalists to get both sides of this CO2 emissions trading tax. I am glad I have that choice.   

 

No country should have one sided 'discussions' as Julia likes to call them. 

 

Laurel V said:

well, Murdochs control of our media HAS affected things greatly.

its how free speech has been killed off here.

see news adelaide online censors heavily.

anything their agenda doesnt approve of ie carbon truth not warmist lies.

and hes so pallly with so many pollies.

did anyone see who funded Ohbummer so heavily?

yeah  murdoch!

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Permalink Reply by Rae Billett on September 15, 2011 at 8:07am

Mr. Brown has once again got his way, Julia Gillard has now said an independent enquiry will be held into the "media". Why not just say into the Murdock press.

 

Good old Bob and Julia are certainly angry about the way The Australian and the Telegraph has been presenting BOTH sides the carbon dioxide tax and that is the problem they have, those medial outlets are reporting other opinions.

 

Diverse opinions are what democracy is about. We need free press to remain 'free'.

 

The government brought this situation on themselves because of bad policies, government waste - think the BER, and now they are crying foul. What were the press supposed to do, ignore the bleading obvious.

 

The strange thing is many of the journalists working for the Murdock Press actually think emission trading is a good thing for the country. Go figure. 

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Permalink Reply by Michael Petterson on September 15, 2011 at 10:02am

If they continue along this road, I can see the first Australian civil war erupting. People can only take so much,before they say "enough is enough!"

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Permalink Reply by Rae Billett on September 15, 2011 at 11:05am

 

This enquiry into the media is a nowhere plan...if they were serious about shutting down the media ‘so called’ bias they would have to include what they call ‘shock jocks’ meaning Alan Jones, Ray Hadley, John Laws and every other radio talk show host who allows the people to have a say.  They are voicing their opinions – that’s bias?

 

I heard Tony Windsor mention the bias of talk back radio and so has that big mouth Oakeshott who has the happy knock of making himself look like an idiot every time he opens his mouth.

 

The fact is people  have opinions about the government’s policies which are not good ones and in particular the carbon dioxide tax, therefore the government has made this situation themselves.

 

No wonder people are fed up with governments, they sign agreements we know nothing of and implement policies to adhere to these commitments and we HAVE NO SAY!  Yet we are not supposed to have any opinion at all about these matters.

 

We can only keep voicing our opinions regardless because I hope we still have a democracy happening but.... I am starting to wonder what democracy in this country really is.

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Permalink Reply by Rae Billett on September 15, 2011 at 6:00pm

I would love to see Bob Brown debate Malcolm Turnbull and John Hartigan.

 

Brown statement comes because he knows they have no interest in debating him. They are way out of Bob Brown's class.

 

I really wish they would put him on the spot though.

 

Beverley Prescott said:

I have put up another news item on other discussions about Turnbull being absent when Tony Abbott started the debate on Carbon Tax so I should put this one up as well that I found this morning.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/media-groups-cautious-ag...

Greens leader Bob Brown slams claims media inquiry is a 'witch hunt'

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Permalink Reply by Rae Billett on September 16, 2011 at 8:13pm

Did I see or hear something in the media today to the effect that Tim (Julia's main man) cannot understand why the people dislike her so much now?

 

I thought that man might have a bit of intelligence (why I don't know) but..... hello Tim; they don't like her because she lied blatantly and she treats them with disdain. They do not want a carbon dioxide tax, and I can think of quite a few more reasons but they are too numerous to list.

 

What planet is Tim hanging out on these days? Doesn't he read or look at the news or perhaps papers are barred at the Lodge. The Murdock ones would be I suppose.

How out of touch with reality are these people?

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Permalink Reply by Rae Billett on January 28, 2012 at 10:59am

The media in this country have every right to feel they have been had, as should the community.

 

Today I read that the head spin doctor (key advisor) to Julia Gillard, one Tony Hodges, has resigned (asked to leave/ sacked?) He advised a person from the Aboriginal tent embassy group where the PM and Tony Abbott would be on Thursday, giving out awards, after Tony Abbott made a few harmless remarks about the tent embassy after 40 years of existence.

 

I am absolutely shocked by the low tactics people advising the Prime Minister will use. Did this man in fact incite people to riot?  It’s really hard to see it any other way considering what occurred.

 

While I have no love of the PM, Julia Gillard, she was obviously placed in a situation where she was fearful for her safety. What if she had fallen and sustained a serious head injury, not beyond the realms of possibility. Tony Abbott was placed in the same awful situation which was fully and knowingly intended.

 

I do not believe this is acceptable. The brain dead spin doctor has done untold damage to the office of the PM and because of the overreaction of the people at the Aboriginal Tent Embassy, has done untold damage to the Labor Party image AGAIN.

 

The whole thing was a ‘set up’ for the media and the 'activists' at the tent Embassy to hound Tony Abbott but it went horribly wrong.

 

I don't excuse the activists either but they were given a rather different version of what Tony Abbott actually said and even their leaders now know they were badly used.

 

This incident shows us the intelligence of people employed within the office of the PM as media advisers.

 

I have no doubt Julia Gillard DID NOT KNOW what was planned and set up.  

 

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Permalink Reply by Jeff Hutcho on January 28, 2012 at 12:23pm

Hi Rae,

Just wonder if there is not other influences re- this information spread by Tony Hodges.

The likes of GetUp or similar.

Notice how the Green activist from the NT picked it up and ran with it.

One thing -

Don't read the garbage on New Matilda about this incident - you'd throw up.

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Permalink Reply by Bob Stewart on January 28, 2012 at 4:55pm

Dirty tactics Denise? Yep. The knifing of Rudd is a standout.

Denise Scanlan said:

There is no doubt this was a Labor tactic to get at Tony Abbott. Their usual trickery etc., was going on and what happened is inexcusable. You know how Labor always have to make a joke, or hound the Opposition and this was their way of doing that.

 

It was nothing short of a point scoring exercise and Labor lost big time. We know Labor can go low in their point scoring as we see in election campaigns. I doubt they will learn anything from this as they can't seem to keep their heads above dirty tactics.

 

This one came back to bite them and it could have been very costly. Can you imagine if weapons had been used which had caused a serious injury or worse, especially to Gillard? The problem is, Gillard supports these dirty tactics herself, and even though it seems she had no idea about this one, she should be very wary in future

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