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Permalink Reply by Lynette McDougall on April 24, 2010 at 9:00pm

Do you have any idea how big would the storage device have to be? This is sheer nonsense, promulgated by the usual right wing rednecks who are forever coming up with something to prove their obssessive conspirary theory that the govmint is out to getcha.

I printed a 300 plus page document at work the other day. I hope "they" enjoy reading it, I didn't - it was as boring as the proverbial bat@#$%.

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Permalink Reply by Laurel Ender on April 24, 2010 at 9:31pm

Lynette, somehow I dont think it would need to be that large, print doesnt take much space, pics a bit more, when you can get the tiny camera cards that will store many hundreds of hi res pics..it isnt Un feasible at all.
and you may like to check the back of some of whatever you print, its a very hard to see may ? need black light, series of numbers that IDs the copier. so IF? you ever decided to blow a whistle, and printed at work, they CAN track the dept it came from, by the gtee info, name add, and owner.
the register to Gtee idea, works well for them.

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Permalink Reply by Laurel Ender on April 24, 2010 at 9:32pm

Lynette, you want to write to the page I got it from? feel free, I suspect they are right though.

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Permalink Reply by Laurel Ender on April 24, 2010 at 9:47pm

the final sentence? the comment re every page being tagged with the copiers ID, that i know IS a fact. not hard just a tiny subroutine and its simply a ID number of the particular unit ie the barcode.

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Permalink Reply by Lynette McDougall on April 24, 2010 at 9:55pm

The volume of printing done by the 3 printers on my floor would fill a camera data card by lunch time. That 300 page document I printed was a tiny one compared to the obssessive amount printed out by certain other work units.

And printing a hidden ID on the page? Meh. So what. I don't use the work printer for private stuff anyway. And if I was going to print anything off to whistle blow with I wouldn't do it at work. I'd copy it to one of those data sticks (if I could figure out how to) and print it off at home. Because guess what? I have to use my building access card to access the printer and retrieve my print jobs, which are stored on the printers network drive for 8 hours if not printed earlier. My employer knows exactly how many pieces of paper I waste every day printing or photocopying.

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Permalink Reply by Laurel Ender on April 24, 2010 at 9:56pm

Lynette, alan, Here.
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/ramasastry/20051114.html

discussing the use legality and how long theyve been doing it. try 20 years in some cases

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Permalink Reply by Laurel Ender on April 24, 2010 at 11:46pm

alan I dunno, try a blue light? like they said in the link?
39steps. good flick

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Permalink Reply by Laurel Ender on April 25, 2010 at 9:47pm

Peter, adding to the cost? nah they need a storage anyway its a minor few cents to them, and as the link above shows the "security" to track where possible Offensive? or terrorist??? links were sent/printed is enough to get it okayed.
I used to do electronics and believe me the cost of components and what the people like me get paid, now replaced by wave soldering machines anyway.. is peanuts, and the cost to you is downright rude!
I used to complete 25 units a day from board to test, I earnt just over 80$ for that. the entire component lot cost the boss around another 200.
the retail $499 EA.

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Permalink Reply by Laurel Ender on April 25, 2010 at 11:10pm

consider a doctors office? a lawyers, doesnt have to be a huge place to have info thats best kept private. they go through quite a few as upgrades etc are a business deduction.

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Permalink Reply by Laurel Ender on April 26, 2010 at 9:09pm

:-) yup! same story I salvaged 3 computers at the dump, the one I am now using had a LOT of info on the drive, not even formatted before dumping. the previous owners are lucky I am Not a snoopy sort, I just used killdisk and then formatted it.
Most, but not all PCs a friend used to buy via bulk auctions had been wiped, but he used to find the odd one that hadnt been working, hadnt been touched as the people may have found it beyond them?
I always pull the drives and check for bad sectors whatever. but I guess we may be in the rarer group?
My printers US as I managed to drop jellybeans:-) yeah whoops! down the back of it... its screwing up the paper feed..and they are sods to dismantle..and I cant find anything I printed on it around, but then I use it maybe 2x a year. or I,d see what I could see, it is a cannon.

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Permalink Reply by Norm Martin on April 27, 2010 at 3:26pm

This sounds like a biy of hype! Like the Nixon tapes, if they took 4 yeards to create, then it also took 4 years to hear or see them.!

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Permalink Reply by Norm Martin on April 27, 2010 at 3:57pm

Hi Jeff !



As someone who has been in that game, your logic is a bit sketchy. Most dealers work on a fairly low margin, and their No 1 fear is that a customer will return a computer for "free" service if the software isn't properly operative. Customers also have a habit of ringing up to enquire what a particular file is for. To avoid this almost all dealers will reload a computer from scratch, including
Fdisking" the Hard Drive. No more data!
This shuts off one of the oncosts feared by dealers.
Having at one time purchased a good many machunes from the defence dept, they remove all hard drives and destroy them.
It would be a very slack legal or commercial firm who did not erase a drive before disposal.

Regards

Norm

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