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The genetic desire of a society is to perpetuate itself so that one's own genes survive and prosper into the forever future. 'Marriage' being the union between man and woman is the principle multiplier of the perpetuation of the society. "Marriage" between same sex couples achieves no purpose for the continuance of the society and can only lead to "equal" rights for same sex "marrieds' to adopt children. Whilst I am aware of children being exposed to same sex relationships being forced upon some children by their bisexual and turned homosexual natural parents no society that wishes to perpetuate itself should entertain a view that same sex couples should have rights to adopt or foster others parentless children. Homosexuals who want the right to marry as man and women have can not expect to be 'equal' unless given the OK to apply to be included in the adoption process. What homosexuals want is to feel normal when there is nothing normal about homosexuality for a society that wants to successfully perpetuate itself.

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Permalink Reply by Rory Donnellan on May 6, 2012 at 9:06pm

In the Catholic Church many disordered priests were sent to treatment facilities only to be told "You are a perfectly normal homosexual". How many of them do you think were encouraged to amend their ways after mistakenly being told they are perfectly normal? On the other hand, expert therapists such as Dr Richard Fitzgibbons who correctly identified their underlying disorder were far more successful in helping to treat many of these problem priests. More on Dr Richard Fitzgibbons...

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/cardinal_bertone_correct_in_...

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Permalink Reply by james darby on May 7, 2012 at 10:20am

With regard to responsibliity I wrote the below to a Priest in 2010.

""Thank you or the opportunity of being able to hear your thoughts and purpose. I am refreshed on my task that I feel compelled to do.

I have attached only a little of what I have written as I understand time is so limited and evaporates so fast.

The 'Destroy the youth' letter written to Turnbull 250508 is particularly important to me as it attempts to examine the toxifing of today's youth into Godless life.

The "You learn from your mistakes" belief system is also so heavily imprinted into the minds of the school leaver that their sense of morality is offset from reality.

A mistake becomes justifiable in their minds as "I have learnt from my mistake" enters their mind instead of "I will pay for that mistake".

If the child was imprinted with the alternative view "I learn from my success and I pay for my mistakes" and "I do not have to crash a car to learn how to; drive without ever crashing or frightening my passengers or harming the car mechanically or drawing my driving behaviour to the attention of the Police" . "I will learn from the things I do right AND though my observation of the completion of tasks by the experienced and the wise." Young people become older people and can lead good and decent lives more easily if not weighed by a permanent excuse for their personal failings from their belief system that "You learn from your mistakes".

I have a terrible feeling that those who have manipulated themselves into positions of power may have done so in the deception to themselves that the responsibility to be decent will keep them from their indecent intent. And then their indecent intent becomes individually excused to themselves on the basis that "I have learned from my mistake so now hopefully I will be better (If I can control the temptation)"

Had the person in power held the instilled view "You pay for your mistakes; you learn from your successes" then their conscience would not have dismissed their personal evil as a 'learning' experience and the plan to place themself in a positon to abuse may not have taken place.

For the Church to do God's work and prepare for the return of Jesus the Church must do nothing to close the door in the face of those who need to trust the Church and for those who expect to trust Clergy who are within.

I am blessed that I had the opportunity to attend Sunday School and because of polio had to invent for myself 'Observation Skill' as I had to determine how I would perform each task for myself. Spending little time at school left my soft brain free from being swept into the socialisation of the school system.

There is a way that those in power are able to conduct themselves ethically without betraying the trust of those who appointed them and those who are placed under their protection and guidence.

This has to be acknowledged that there is a way to be perfect. That being perfect is not beyond the limit of imagination or capacity. The nurture and protection of the innocent and the providing to the youth the tools and technics for the acceptance of the personal responsibility of the result of each and every one of one's own actions can be taught to very young students. It is the young who become the old.

Thankyou again for the opportunity to hear and observe your wonderful works.

James Darby""

Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:11 AM

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Permalink Reply by Linda Campion on May 8, 2012 at 4:46am

I'm sure gay couples want to feel and be equal. They can't and they won't. I'm sure there are some who want to adopt children and raise them as their own (a la Modern Family); do we really want this for these children? Marriage is between a man and a woman. Let them have committed relationships; we all need those. But marriage = man + woman = sex = babies. A simple concept.

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Permalink Reply by Jan Courtney on May 8, 2012 at 5:50am

And the one that NATURE INTENDED

Linda Campion said:

I'm sure gay couples want to feel and be equal. They can't and they won't. I'm sure there are some who want to adopt children and raise them as their own (a la Modern Family); do we really want this for these children? Marriage is between a man and a woman. Let them have committed relationships; we all need those. But marriage = man + woman = sex = babies. A simple concept.

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Permalink Reply by Jan Courtney on May 8, 2012 at 7:05pm

It is just a thought that no one has raised to date.

Kind regards

Caroline

But still not as nature intended Caroline.

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Permalink Reply by Jan Courtney on May 8, 2012 at 8:07pm

Caroline, I saw an article on this a couple of days ago, and if you Google IVF causes higher rate of birth defects you will find lots from papers all over the world. Not good news. But, as I said earlier - Not what nature intended.

High rates of birth defects associated with an artificial reproduct...

Published on May 8, 2012 at 2:58 AM · No Comments

By Dr Ananya Mandal, MD

A new study has shown that one of the most popular forms of IVF could double the risk of birth defects.

Researchers found that one in ten babies born through ICSI suffered some form of abnormality. This compares with just over one in 20 of those conceived naturally. It is unclear yet whether the problems are caused by the treatment, or the fact couples having it are at higher risk of defects anyway.

http://www.news-medical.net/news/20120508/High-rates-of-birth-defec...

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Higher Risk of Birth Defects from Assisted Reproduction, Study Suggests

ScienceDaily (May 5, 2012) — A University of Adelaide study has identified the risk of major birth defects associated with different types of assisted reproductive technology.

In the most comprehensive study of its kind in the world, researchers from the University's Robinson Institute have compared the risk of major birth defects for each of the reproductive therapies commonly available internationally, such as: IVF (in vitro fertilization), ICSI (intracytoplasmic sperm injection) and ovulation induction. They also compared the risk of birth defects after fresh and frozen embryo transfer.

The results are being published May 5 in the New England Journal of Medicine, and presented in Barcelona, Spain at the World Congress on Building Consensus in Gynecology, Infertility and Perinatology.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120505130923.htm

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Permalink Reply by Jan Courtney on May 8, 2012 at 8:52pm

Caroline, I was quite shocked and saddened by this news myself. Although I am not in favour of mucking around with natural reproduction processes, I know the IVF program brought joy to many, many families. I also know from friends who underwent the process several times unsuccessfully, the devastation they feel when the embryo implants, then aborts at a few weeks gestation. Apparently that is fairly common, but not publicised.

Please don't think I put my principles ahead of compassion for others. I don't.

Best wishes

Jan

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Permalink Reply by Linda Campion on May 9, 2012 at 12:51am

Hi Beverley, interesting point. But the topic was marriage. Stick to the topic, please.

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Permalink Reply by Jan Courtney on May 11, 2012 at 2:14pm

Linda, I'm so sorry I didn't welcome you when you became a member of the Community Assistants Team, or have Tony and Co. made you a moderator and not told us - those sneaky boys.

Linda Campion said:

Hi Beverley, interesting point. But the topic was marriage. Stick to the topic, please.

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Permalink Reply by james darby on May 11, 2012 at 3:21pm

Hi Beverley, Readily available porno is a real worry for parents who wish their offspring to have a healthy attitude to courtship, sex and marriage. Porno gives the wrong impression to youths and young boys as a view is instilled that women are available for the asking and sex becomes less special.

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Permalink Reply by Linda Campion on May 11, 2012 at 7:19pm

Hi Ebony, no I am not a mod, just have my own opinion. And strong Christian.

Ebony Jackson said:

I watched the SBS program Bev - very interesting to learn how weird the kids of today are turning out.

Porn by its very nature will draw people to visit sites where anything goes.

Sex and other sex is not for the faint hearted - nor is it the exclusive domain of the youth.

Consequences ie, STD's, gonorrhoea, syphilis, even AIDS (definitely out there) and of course the unplanned pregnancy, none of the porn sites will be responsible for your easy love in!....or your RSI, if you are male (side affect of masturbation).

I agree with you James.

And Linda? well if you are a mod, I guess I will be warned like Bev was.

Topics kind of get away from where they started from, when they become (more) interesting.