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The genetic desire of a society is to perpetuate itself so that one's own genes survive and prosper into the forever future. 'Marriage' being the union between man and woman is the principle multiplier of the perpetuation of the society. "Marriage" between same sex couples achieves no purpose for the continuance of the society and can only lead to "equal" rights for same sex "marrieds' to adopt children. Whilst I am aware of children being exposed to same sex relationships being forced upon some children by their bisexual and turned homosexual natural parents no society that wishes to perpetuate itself should entertain a view that same sex couples should have rights to adopt or foster others parentless children. Homosexuals who want the right to marry as man and women have can not expect to be 'equal' unless given the OK to apply to be included in the adoption process. What homosexuals want is to feel normal when there is nothing normal about homosexuality for a society that wants to successfully perpetuate itself.

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Permalink Reply by james darby on July 14, 2012 at 11:52am

Hi Barbara, I am not about to speak for Merv however I will imagine that you addressed the question to myself. I had polio at two years and walked with a profound limp. I did not expect every other child to be shot in a leg to walk like me. Sure over the years I observed that disadvantaged children are treated by others in a more accepting way. A society is best served by attempting elevate the expectations of the 'less normal' (as I am) than be depreciating the expectations of 'normal' or main steam persons. The introduction of scoring individuals in a class in comparrison to the average score of that class denies congratualations to the excellent. The introduction of "A's" and C's and B's served to remore the % mark so that competition between individuals became disguised. Recognition of the best became lost in the desire to protect the under acheivers. Dr Wyndham as Director General of Education began the socialist rot from 1952 and by 1968 children where taught to think collectivily instead of individually.

I have no doubt that young males, including those who do not appear effeminate, are driven by high sex drives and any inhibitors that society can offer, that sex between same gender persons is not acceptable behaviour, aids the natural and normal desires that parents genetically own to raise hetrosexual children. There are people in society who are unable to provide for their own living and then there are people who could and chose to suck on the public teat and not work. If women exercised the same sexual restraint as men, everywhere you went you would find people fornicating as happened in the Oxford St bath houses pre-AIDS ( I have been a Kings Cross nightclub owner). To relax the general view that homosexual sex is unnatural, unclean and soul destroying removes the inhibitors that restrict males from taking that unfortunate path. Protecting the effeminate from feeling badly should not be done at the expense of the normal family and the expectations of the family.

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Permalink Reply by Barbara lee on July 14, 2012 at 8:51pm

ok James with much respect to you and I did respect the last reply about grandmothers took that on board, I actual enjoyed the reading as you had put much into it. Yes you have gone through personal health issues and been to hell and back, you've have injured much. As I'am actual carer to my husband, with major problems, spinal lung and heart, have been a high level career to my mum 5 years my house was turned into a minie hospital can apreciate what you have gone through. I know what pain and struggles of living can be all about. And that's maybe why I have stuck up for the underdog here. Some people who through no fault of their own just can't share a little happiness just feel thats mean, not talking about left wingers or screw loose nuts, that on banners have written up God there is no God on their signs, that's down right awful. Genuine ones who mean it deserve a little piece of happiness. Agree to disagree here, as I won't be in here again.

And with all of this still say the vows of marriage is crumbling around us.

To a person that was born with females hormones and trap into a mans body. I feel this discussion is just going around and has no ending I have my views and differently won't change. You and mev have yours, is gone way too indepth and outer bounds judging from all that has been said. Be it whether their are 2 different people on the earth ones who want to destroy or work hard to build whatever, we are all Gods children at the end of the day, and so each one is not perfect not by a long shot.

I see very much one eyed views, all white no grey.

At the end of the day I've come to the conclusion Cate was right, to cut it short should be a ceremony separate to a marriage but called it a different name so they can have a special something that's meaningful to them.

Barb

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Permalink Reply by Dr Caroline Wright on July 15, 2012 at 8:45pm

As I said over a month ago that a possible compromise would be to have a legal partnership for homosexual couples.

Kind regards

Caroline

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Permalink Reply by Merv Nash on July 15, 2012 at 10:17pm

Absolutely.

In the absense of any better solution at this time, the question remains: Why is a proposal such as this not acceptable to the homosexual group?

It is acceptable to the, one man one woman, marriage people.

Dr Caroline Wright said:

As I said over a month ago that a possible compromise would be to have a legal partnership for homosexual couples.

Kind regards

Caroline

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Permalink Reply by Merv Nash on July 16, 2012 at 1:21pm

Here are a few alternate possibilities that might be the cause of homosexuality.

Pick one that suits your reasoning, religion or philosophy.

1. Drugs your mother or father took at some time in their life.

Both medical and street drugs are designed to alter the mind and change

the body make up.

2. GMO food your mother or father took or even the person themselves took.

GMO by its very name means that the genetic structure has been fiddled

with and at this early stage no one knows the long term outcomes of doing

this.

3. All processed food today, even baby food, has for many years had all sorts

of additives put in it from artificial colourings, artificial flavours and chemical

preservatives. On top of that, there is all the hormone and growth booster

chemicals they feed every animal you eat. Especially fast food shops.

Do you know for certain that these do not fiddle with a person’s genes?

4. Drinking water has chlorine, fluoride and goodness knows what else in it,

for your own good of course.

5. People are only made up of chemicals and they haven’t found the right pill

yet to fix the problem.

6. It’s not a problem at all. These people are just different and should be

allowed to be as they are and be accepted by others just like all other

differences between people regardless. People should have the rights to be

anyway they want. We should abandon governments, moral codes, religion

and police.

7. The way I feel has nothing to do with me. It’s something or someone else’s

fault.

8. The person has no idea why they feel the way they do, and nothing they

have tried has changed anything. They have given up trying and their

solution is to change the rest of the world to their way.

9. The person is playing at being a victim just to get sympathy.

10 The person covertly hates others and secretly enjoys seeing them stressed

challenged and outraged.

11. God made me this way so I guess it’s the way He wants me to be.

12. This is a God given burden I have to bear as a test of my love for Him.

13. This is a God given problem He wants me to solve it for Mankind.

14. All individuals are basically spirits. Spirits are ethereal and not made of the same stuff as this universe. They are immortal and come and go life after life. Sometimes, after a number of very successful lives as a woman (or man) they suddenly find themselves in a male (or female) body and don’t know how the hell they got in the wrong body and are all confused so they just try to continue on as they were last time.

Feel free to add to the list. I am sure I haven’t covered all possibilities.

We could hold a vote to get a consensus

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Permalink Reply by james darby on July 16, 2012 at 5:10pm

Thank you Bill for posting the Link http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2012/02/19/the-case-against-same-sex... Bill posters must be encouraged

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Permalink Reply by james darby on July 17, 2012 at 10:05am

Thankyou Jan Courtney for the link http://www.family.org.au/index.php This Site is certainly a way to fight for values.

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Permalink Reply by james darby on July 20, 2012 at 9:47am

http://ipa.org.au/news/2697/schools-might-as-well-tell-students-who...

Further evidence that Juliar Gillard is red-bent on replacing the family as the child educator with her education system so attempting to make 'Marriage' obsolete.

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Permalink Reply by Rob Moore on September 22, 2012 at 8:54am

http://www.smh.com.au/queensland/2-out-of-30-how-queensland-mps-vot...

There is a vote and wash up for QLD people to view

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Permalink Reply by james darby on September 22, 2012 at 10:03am

Hi Rob Mooore, thank you for posting the results link. Man (and woman) are unique. "Equality" only exists in opportunity. "Marriage Equality" is misnamed. In terms of same-genders having equality to marry same-genders, call it "Marriage destruction"

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Permalink Reply by james darby on September 22, 2012 at 2:33pm

I give "full genius" to those who have the capacity to control others "for others to lower their own standards, sets of values, codes of conduct, belief systems, methods of opperation and cultural heritage in order for the sale to be effected, be it a political sale or any sale that requires the target to obey and believe the instruction given them"

"genius' often comes in evil form, such as Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler, Lenin, Mao, Ho, Gillard, Wong, Swan. Hilter was able to turn a good people into warlike monsters, and in that concept I call him a (BAD) "genius". In her own way Gillard is also a "genius" as she is able to sell Tony Windsor on keeping her on as PM. As PM Gillard is evil as her motive is to bankrupt real Australians. She needs to remove the fianancial capacity of Australians and Small Business opperators to fight the coming AsianAustUnion as part of the Gillard plan for OWG. Bob Brown is another genius as Bob has managed to obtain consent from so many hetrosexual Australians that sodomy is OK to be taught as 'acceptable practice' to school children and that marriage between same gender persons should become a plan of life and also be taught in schools.