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Permalink Reply by Jason Isaac AKA DILLIGAF on June 17, 2012 at 9:34pm

Although i agree it's inflammatory which BTW is why I wanted further opinion on the subject, I fear you have missed the point of my question?

Dale Stiller said:

As a moderator on this site if a discussion was posted as is within the quote in the discussion starter above with the use of such inflamery language I would delete it.

We can express you disapproval of the mess that the Rudd/ Gillard administrations have made of illegal immigrants without going to these depths.

Howard when PM had this situation underhand without topedoing boats or whipping up hysteria. It was stupidity to change those policy settings & now misplaced pride not to return to them.

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Permalink Reply by Jan Courtney on June 18, 2012 at 8:57am

 Reply by Tony Howard 4 hours ago

The language may be inflamatory, but the reaction is born of fear..fear of losing the Australia we thought we had, with the freedom to walk the streets without the angry glares of foreigners and the unbridled hatred that their backwards lifestyles promote. Fear of having to call our religious holidays by some other name so as not too insult, yet being told how we must respect a foreign religion totally opposed to our values and traditions.

 

 

Tony, your post in its entirety is beautifully put.

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Jason Isaac AKA DILLIGAF on June 18, 2012 at 9:04am

Well said Tony and very well conveyed for those amongst us like myself (The unintelligent). 1st up I normally dodge political discussion like the plague as to me they are often in the same format as religion. Everyone has an opinion and when disagreements happen they are often very heated. The purpose of this was just simply to see if others thought what I did of it when I first read it?

If you were to go through to read it line by line and then think of the words they have used to describe what Tony has so well, Would you still agree or disagree with the statement?

I don't. Although i do agree with the underlying features that Tony describes I find great flaws in the way the above statement is written. Cate may know my interpretation of the statement as she knows a little of my background?

For one the figures quoted are unsubstantiated. the use of the word "invasion" is inaccurate. Invasion day was a name given to Cooks arrival by the first nations people of Australia to simulate the point that this country was invaded by Europeans on BOATS over 200 years ago. This was not a nation of savages or uneducated natives. It was a civilized society made up of many nations of people each with their own beliefs, customs, languages and diplomacy.

Before we can take the high moral ground of dismissing all that come here for a better life, people should think of how this country was built and who has been forgotten along the way? Australia as we know it was built on migration. The Eureka Stockade flag often used by the ignorant white supremacy of our community show their stupidity everytime they use it as it represents the most multicultural background of any time in history. Migrant workers standing up against a dictatorship of the British rule at that time.

I don't have a problem with people seeking asylum in Australia. I do have a problem with people bypassing closer countries to get here that could equally be classed as safe havens for them. As an Aboriginal Australian I can tell you people have been arriving here by boat for over 800 years. The Dutch were the first to contact my tribe, The gamilaroi(Kamilaroi) of nth west NSW before we migrated from the north west corner of WA. Some of our names even reflect this with names like "yon" in replacement for the Dutch name "John" etc. We have welcomed ALL who have come here even Cooks mob and we still welcome anyone needs to be here. the key word there is NEEDS. Some travel here simply because the asylum is so freely available. Those are the ones who should be turned away. Not just a blanket approach to ignor all who seek a better life here.

Tony is right! What we knew as the Australian way of life is being eroded away daily by the influx and promotion of other cultures over our own (both black and white). You only have to look at a school class photo to see the impact these days. The problem isn't various people coming here to build a life? The problem is people bringing their problems with them and using this countries freedoms(and I use that word loosely) to make it more like the place they left behind. People are right to stand up against this behaviour but we must be a united front when we do it showing ALL of Australias peoples, religions, beliefs, customs etc. Take the time to get to know a refugee if you are ever lucky enough to meet one. If they are legitimate you may get a nice surprise?

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Permalink Reply by Jason Isaac AKA DILLIGAF on June 18, 2012 at 9:04am

yes mate i noticed. nice to see you there as well. we need more of the "normal" imput. lol

Cate Stuart said:

Aaaah, Dilli - lol, been waiting for you to come in and comment :)

Now i did consider a number of ways to answer your question, but then i just could not make up my mind which tone it was posted in - a "tic" question? A serious question? Or really a fishing expedition? - either way, i was up for a laugh! lol

I notice the other site is still there - went over for a visit again - hope alls good too.

Cheers Cate

 

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Permalink Reply by Jason Isaac AKA DILLIGAF on June 18, 2012 at 10:20pm

Can i use that Tony? I also have been handed a facebook group with 3000+ members called Aboriginal. What you have said here may help in what I've been trying to say to some of the activists in that group? That racism has no colour or boundaries. 

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Permalink Reply by Stephen Cox on June 22, 2012 at 12:23am

The racial aspect is irrelevant what is important is that various Countries and in some cases regions have an overlying culture and sometimes a couple that can survive in harmony or a symbiotic relationship like a shark and a remora can.

However when multiple cultures are being thrown in together to compete for relevance it then becomes a self destructing excercise in futility as nobody wins and all end up destroying each other or weakening each other to the point that an outside invader waltzes in and takes over with minimal effort and all become equal as second class or lower entities in a new monocultural norm imposed from without.

 

This has been a hallmark of the spread of both Islam and Christianity at different stages around the world,the problem is however the relevance of one is waning and the other is spresding at an increasing rate with aid of fools and internationalists who want conflict to cull the world population.

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