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Permalink Reply by Jeff Hutcho on August 15, 2012 at 5:40pm

Hi Dr Caroline,

Reading through your top post on this page "What killed Gunn's", one paragraph got me feeling a bit gritty.

``I can remember (former Greens leader) Bob Brown saying that the wedge-tailed eagle would be extinct if the pulp mill went ahead - he said it,'' Mr Gray said.

But the same Greens are hell bent in getting hundreds of bird choppers installed around Tasmania,  the wind farm at Woolnough has form on destroying a number (18 ?) of the Tasmanian genus of Wedge Tail Eagle, which is close to extinction.

"But that's alright, in the greater green cause." - Grrrr

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Permalink Reply by Dr Caroline Wright on August 15, 2012 at 7:37pm

Hooray Jeff! .... someone else who gets the hypocrisy of it all. An big Grrrrrr from down here as well.

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Permalink Reply by Dr Caroline Wright on August 16, 2012 at 11:12am

THE long-awaited forest deal is now into its fourth extension, but an interim agreement that hinges on Forestry Tasmania modelling has been released by environment and timber group signatories.

The groups, following meetings with both state and federal government ministers, have now given themselves "four to six weeks" to cement a deal.

If it can be sealed they have not ruled out a trade delegation to overseas markets to collectively assure customers there will be "lasting peace" in Tasmanian forests.

They have also hinted at "incentives" to make sure neither side of the debate renews protest action or hostilities should an agreement be reached.

http://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/220920/interim-forest-deal-may-...

If these peace talks do succeed then it may be possible to repair some of the damage Greenpeace has caused in oversea's markets for our timber products. The untruths have been very effective in reducing the size of the markets for our timber products. 

A forest ‘peace deal’ may, or may not, emerge from the backrooms, possibly enabling Parliament to consider the Tasmanian Forests Agreement Bill 2012 tabled just prior to the June 30th deadline.

We as Parliamentarians are bombarded with submissions and reports prior to the debate on important legislation. Interestingly, one such document on my desk this week was a précis of a Report into the financial position of Tasmania.

On the matter of the forest industry the Report had this to say:

“The whole question devolves upon the commercial accessibility of marketable timber as a payable proposition, and I suggest that consideration of any assistance by the Commonwealth must be deferred until that question is fully investigated and determined.”

http://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/189231/back-to-the-future-for-t...

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Permalink Reply by Dr Caroline Wright on August 16, 2012 at 6:26pm

Now we know who is behind the negative publicity that has infiltrated the Japanese Markets for our timber products. Peg Putt a former and now retired Green Member in the Tasmanian House of Assembly has a position in Markets For Change. She was interviewed on Southern Cross News tonight and is concerned that the interim forestry agreement has not addressed what she believes should have been addressed. In other words she will probably step up the anti-market champagne overseas which includes Japan.

How devious these Greens and Greenpeace groups are where they can use these former positions, contacts and anti-establishments ideals and practically bring the timber industry to a virtual halt.

Damn! Now I am further outraged. Which is right where I started!  

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Permalink Reply by Dr Caroline Wright on August 18, 2012 at 12:53pm

More Green rhetoric re the Pulp Mill in Tasmania.

WHEN are some Tasmanians going to face up to the hard reality that a world-scale pulp mill is not good business and never likely to be our economic saviour?

need to move on from the pulp mill and work together for more sustainable wealth creation options for our beautiful island.

The announcement by Gunns Ltd that it's ``not probable'' that its pulp mill will get finance and that  the company has decreased confidence in its ability to influence the mill proceeding'' is a significant statement. 

 

http://www.examiner.com.au/story/208925/time-to-move-on-from-unviab...

 

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Permalink Reply by Dr Caroline Wright on August 18, 2012 at 1:09pm

THE sabre-rattling of environment groups outside the realm of the forestry peace talks is an ominous start to a fledgling peace deal still devoid of key detail.

This week one set of environment groups stood next to forest industry chiefs and talked reconciliation. The next day another set of environment groups expressed "concern" about the lack of identified reserves and indicated that regardless of what Deputy Premier Bryan Green might say, there is definitely no end to the forest war yet.

Maybe the environment movement is playing a good cop, bad cop game.

If it rejects any peace deal, its durability as a marketable brand will be lost.

http://www.examiner.com.au/story/225685/key-test-for-conservation-c...

Barry Prismall has got it right (above) where he says that no matter what decisions are made around the Forrest Peace Talks Table it will all be undone by the planned overseas protests as well as those on the domestic front.

At least there are some other people in Tasmania that see what the Greens are doing to harm Tasmania. One think I will admit is that it is a very well planned attack from production, logging, wood chipping, reduction in supply to value-adding companies like Ta Ann, and reduction in markets overseas to buy our products.

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Permalink Reply by Dr Caroline Wright on August 19, 2012 at 11:02am

The Greens continue their campaign to prevent the development of mining in Tasmania and thus the potential to increase job opportunities in our State.

PREMIER Lara Giddings has drawn a line in the sand, saying her government will not bend in its support of mining in the environmentally sensitive Tarkine region in the state's North-West.

Her tough stand came after Greens leader and cabinet minister Nick McKim said he wanted the valuable mineral resource locked up.

Environmentalists have warned that any new mining in the Tarkine would lead to a protest campaign to rival that against damming the Franklin River in the early 1980s - the dispute that is largely seen as the birth of the Greens' political movement.

Those supporting the new mining ventures fear the region will become the new battlefield for the old animosity being dealt with by the government-initiated forestry peace process, putting hundreds of potential jobs at risk.

http://www.examiner.com.au/story/232034/giddings-prepared-to-take-t...

 

Will this bring about a break between the Greens and Labor in Tasmania particularly if Nick McKim carries out his threat to protest in such as way that it would be reminiscent of the Franklin Dam protest?

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Stephen Cox on August 19, 2012 at 10:18pm

Hopefully if people realise the impost on their cost of living comes directly from the greens,Maybe they will finally break the Green stranglehold on tasmania.

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Permalink Reply by Dr Caroline Wright on August 20, 2012 at 11:25am

A potential light at the end of a very long tunnel:

......A serious new look at Hampshire as a pulp mill site;

-  a pilot study in the Burnie area into turning timber resource into bio-fuels;

- a laminated lumber veneer processing facility;

- an ``innovation road map'' for the North-West timber industry; 

- working with the timber industry and the State Government on renewed promotion of Hampshire as a site for a major new timber processing facility; and,

- subject to Gunns Limited's support, the council spending up to $10,000 on a prospectus for Hampshire updating previous industrial land, timber and pulp mill studies.

EIPGunns considered Hampshire  before deciding upon the Tamar Valley for its apparently ill-fated pulp mill project......

http://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/233108/burnie-to-consider-timbe...

The following looks good in print but what effect will the Greens have on this plan or is it just 'pie in the sky'?

...These areas include job creation and maximising Tasmania's opportunities in the Asian Century; securing the future of the Tasmanian forest industry and diversifying the regional economy; providing price relief, competition and security of supply; and progressing a strong social agenda - including apologising to victims of forced adoptions and legislating to provide marriage equality for same-sex couples.

Ms O'Byrne said the first week of parliament after the break would be used to outline the government's plans to tap into the economic boom in Asia.....

http://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/233145/forestry-a-top-priority/...

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Permalink Reply by Dr Caroline Wright on August 20, 2012 at 11:32am

Only the next election will tell Stephen. But I doubt it. I did see on the local news a group of senior school children from around the nation that had a conference in Tasmania (at least 30-40 were shown the photographic news footage) and these were all Green converts and are very, very active in implementing the Green's Agenda and intend to continue on to hold Green positions in Parliament when they complete their schooling and further education. So the schools appear to be socialising these students to the Green way of thinking.

Stephen Cox said:

Hopefully if people realise the impost on their cost of living comes directly from the greens,Maybe they will finally break the Green stranglehold on tasmania.

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Permalink Reply by Stephen Cox on August 20, 2012 at 11:43pm

Yes you are right that the Greens and Left in General have subordinated the Education Industry to their own ends,But they forget that especially with the younger generation when they work out they have been conned in such a fashion it will not be pretty for the Socialist Left.

Human nature does not change remember how the French treated the Vichy after WW2 the Collaborators were not generally subject to Trials as they did not trust the Government or the Lawers and Justice in many cases was swift in some out of the way forest or field.

There was good reason for that,There is still a timewarp Village in France where all but a few who were away at the time  were massacred by the German SS Panzer grupp 6 supporting Waffen SS troops.

After the war at the Trial many were executed but around 25% were Alemaign "German French" these murderers were not executed and in fact many were pardoned and did not even serve time in prison,Hence then the Execution of those whom were responsible for the betrayal of French resistance and Civilians were summarily dealt with by ex resistance personnell a fact covered up to a great extent after the War.

Many of these details of World Histery are hidden in plain sight but you need to know the right questions to put into a search to find them,The village in Question was Oradour-Sur-Glane and a search will expose the actions of the SS.

It is a good example of just how much most do not know and how much History was and is censored,Who after all was aware of the Greek Troops and Naval forces staging Riots en masse in the middle east and the very real threats the British controlled of Muslim Uprisings in Egypt that could have changed the outlook in the Middle East theatre during WW2.

History is facinating as the more you research the more you realise we are being lied to or kept in the dark by Government.

The Greens will be exposed and then the backlash will destroy the movement for a considerable time until they reemerge in a different form.

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Permalink Reply by Dr Caroline Wright on August 21, 2012 at 5:35pm

On the matter of the forest industry the Report had this to say:

“The whole question devolves upon the commercial accessibility of marketable timber as a payable proposition, and I suggest that consideration of any assistance by the Commonwealth must be deferred until that question is fully investigated and determined.”

The question in other words is logging native forests a paying proposition? Do we need the IGA money?

The Report underlies the desperate state of the industry but laments that there are few constructive proposals on the table as to how to move forward.....

http://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/189231/back-to-the-future-for-t...

Well the timber industry is not going to be viable if the Greens lock up all the native forests they want to. But I will admit this is a new approach but the end result will be the same.

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