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Permalink Reply by Roger Rankin Crook on November 29, 2009 at 7:45am

Done my bit!
What's going on in the world of news media, John?
The suppression, by the media, of the damning information contained in the 'Climategate' emails is behaviour as bad, no probaly worse, than 'climategate' itself. The people are not being told.
There was a time wasn't there, when editors would be after this story like a rat up a drainpipe? They would have had staff on a 24 hour watch on the tapes, now its the WWW, of course.
It's almost as if a D Notice (what's the Oz equivalent?) has been put on the whole thing by the Government. 'Not in the interest of national security', used to be the one criterion for a D Notice.
The ABC can put together for TV, An Australian Story within a couple of days about a couple of journalists being set free Africa. Yet on this matter they are mute.
Same for The Weekend Australian, a newspaper that I have always had respect for, up until now, now it's starting to decline, rapidly.
What's the gossip around the 'trade'?

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Permalink Reply by Dale Stiller on November 29, 2009 at 9:19am

Three thoughts from the Insiders program.

As Deb has mentioned Labor, via Gillard as guest on the Insiders are pushing the line of, we had an agreement, the opposition has reneged on it and those wishing to make changes are extremist, deniers.

I feel for Joe Hockey at the moment. Turnbull is trying to tie Hockey to himself as Nero Turnbull burns the Liberal party as he goes down. Rudd & Gillard are using emotional blackmail to try to pin Big Joe down. The grassroots of the party are screaming out, listen to us Joe, the leadership of the party has got this one wrong but you are the best chance for the Liberal party. Meanwhile Big Joe has small kids including a new addition this year, he did not want the leadership before the next election & there will be a hell a lot of pain ahead.

I think that this week Paul Kelly said much that was worth listening to. If you have missed the live program, it will up on their web page in a couple of hours.

O, a forth thing, talking pictures segment was good.

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Permalink Reply by John Mikkelsen on November 29, 2009 at 10:15am

Excellent Deb, and to Roger above, mate I honestly think it's mainly a lack of objectivity. Editors and journalists now allow their personal beliefs to cloud their coverage. Opinion pieces are fine, they are the writer's opinion, but the news coverage shows bias by not covering what they don't agree with or mixing comment in with what should be straight news. I can only harken back to my days as a regional dailies editor and remember at an editor's conference being addressed by the head honcho of APN at that stage, Tony O'Reilly and his Australian CEO - they both told us they supported Keating - no mention that we should follow that line as a policy directive, but the implication was there. I ignored it which in the long run probably did me no good except I could live with myself. These days the APN stable is the biggest regional group in Oz and NZ but their papers just don't cover national or international events apart from a page or two of news briefs assembled at the one central office. They are basically local in their outlook and there is more emphasis on social and lighter news or sensational court reports than on any serious topics.

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Permalink Reply by John Mikkelsen on November 29, 2009 at 10:26am

Sorry Dale was I writing that comment below before I saw your post. Thank heavens for Andrew Bolt as one of The Insiders guests. He was great and got the last word in at the end by quoting from one of the hacked emails and saying the whole basis for "climate change" and the ETS was crumbling. He also said what I have said on Peter Gough's thread Focus on Joe Hockey that Turnbull was causing huge damage to the Libs by what he has been saying. He is a leader who is rubbishing his own party and that's what Labor will be relishing even if the ETS is deferred.
Oh and on the Talking Pictures segment one cartoon featured the Black Knight as referred to by Nick Xenophon the other day/ If you want a good laugh, have a look at the link Dale posted on my Sleep Walking into Oblivion forum topic.

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Permalink Reply by John Mikkelsen on November 29, 2009 at 1:15pm

Any move for some action is being swamped by new topics which are just newspaper or on-line stories, Cate. Not helping really.

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Permalink Reply by John Mikkelsen on November 29, 2009 at 2:01pm

That's the spirit Wild Violet a lot of people nodding wisely to an article they agree with isn't going to make things happen.

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Permalink Reply by Dale Stiller on November 29, 2009 at 5:27pm

Tried & failed to put up a video from SMH, they have thought of the black knight as well

http://media.smh.com.au/national/national-news/turnbull-the-black-k...

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Permalink Reply by John Mikkelsen on November 29, 2009 at 6:21pm

Hi Dale, yep but they got the inspiration from Nick Xenophon. If the Senators and the pollies - Labor and Liberal - aren't watching the morning TV shows tomorrow their minders will so I hope it is not all one sided stuff about climate change and the need for the Senate to adopt the ETS immediately. I hope aome Agmates do take the few minutes to email, fax or text their opinions in. My pick of them for the best coverage is the ABC Breakfast News on ABC2 but Today on 9 and Sunrise on 7 probably have bigger audiences.

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Permalink Reply by alan mikkelsen on November 29, 2009 at 6:24pm

The entire copy, all segments of the Weekend Australian boiled down to an editorial blast against Malcolm Turnbull's opponents in the party room, and sceptics in general.

Opps, can't be sure of that as I haven't yet perused every page as yet, only most. So, it will be a big booster for the government, and a big disappointment for those of us who thought they were on the path of objectivity.

Let me emphasise, i am not talking about blogs, the preferred mellieu for dedicated bloggers, but the old fashioned print version, as still read by many Australians.

So indeed, well done AB on The Insiders. But, have a look at the Aus's letters page.

alan m.

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Permalink Reply by Jacki Mott on November 29, 2009 at 6:25pm

Anyone who has letters after their name should also start including them. Let a few know farmers havent always been following the horse and plow around...

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Permalink Reply by Janet H. Thompson on November 29, 2009 at 6:40pm

Mikko, we're onto it. Matt has written a long letter that he's sending to all Senators & MPs. I've sent to all Liberal Senators saying that we don't really care about the leader...we care about the policy, and we'll not support a leader that is not 100% opposed to an ETS.

Now, I'll take a moment to send to the three above. You are correct. These types of programs matter...if we can leverage our words that are already typed out, why not? We can affect programming (we did last week!) that gets to over 200,000 people per program. That's pretty good leverage!

Remember, everyone:

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Permalink Reply by Greg Blackmore on November 29, 2009 at 6:46pm

"Malcolm in the Middle"

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