Paul Ehrlich in a chilling interview with the Guardian on Thursday (26/04/2012) has called for a massive reduction in the number of humans and for natural resources to be redistributed from the rich to the poor. The optimum population of Earth – enough to guarantee the minimal physical ingredients of a decent life to everyone – was 1.5 to 2 billion people rather than the 7 billion who are alive today or the 9 billion expected in 2050, "How many you support depends on lifestyles. We came up with 1.5 to 2 billion because you can have big active cities and wilderness. If you want a battery chicken 
world where everyone has minimum space and food and everyone is kept just about alive you might be able to support in the long term about 4 or 5 billion people. But you already have 7 billion. So we have to humanely and as rapidly as possible move to population shrinkage." there's a 6.52min podcast with the article

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Can we feed the world? Factual arguments against this one please. No emotion.

http://justgroundsonline.com/group/the/forum/topics/i-think-the-gre...

R

Roger,

I believe farmers can easily produce enough food to feed the world - if they are given the necessary tax incentives to do so, rather than being badly disadvantaged by silly carbon taxes and woody-weed protection schemes.

Roger,  if we don't have to hand out agricultural land over to bloody windmills or crops to produce ethanol instead of food.  If  governments take care of the primary producers and allow them to do what they do best -  produce food,  and if they are given a fair playing field to do their work and make a quid for themselves without greed,  of course there will be enough to   feed the world.

I have written on these pages more times than I can remember, growing food isn't the problem, making a profit out of it is. Just have a look at rural debts and rural productivity gains in this country at present the curves are inverse. Production increases are declining as R & D is being reduced. But I've said all this before.

Mind you, losing 60% of WA, our major soon to be only (?) grain exporter by 2050 should be a worry.

Jan. Have a look at the stats for corn growing in the States. Someone here will realise one day that you can make a lot of ethanol out of a tonne of wheat. Wheat at present $230. After ethanol you still have the high protein grains.

Beats me why their isnt a black market in ethanol. With petrol at $1.50L. I can smell the stills in the hills already.

R

Forget Food the Real Gold in this world always will be Fresh Water,Many could feed themselves with a chook pen and a vegie patch on a quarter acre block without any great effort,lots of people did just that in the great depression.

Water though is a much more fragile and valuable recource,Why do you think French Companies such as Violia have bought into Australian Water,And woe betide those treacherous Politicians who helped it to happen.

Typical of these small minded fools wanting to cull the worlds population though,Whatever happened to forward thinking people there is a whole Universe out there to explore,Asteroids that can be mined etc what wonders await those with courage to go beyond where mankind has ventured in the past.

James Corbert of the Corbett Report recently went over a 2010 interview done with Marc Morano on Eugenics and Paul Ehrlich, well worth a listen

 http://www.corbettreport.com/corbett-report-radio-121-marc-morano-v...

Good point about the water, Stephen.

Selling a valuable resource like our water to the dangerous Communist Chinese also gives them some control over Australian food security.

Stephen Cox said:

Forget Food the Real Gold in this world always will be Fresh Water,Many could feed themselves with a chook pen and a vegie patch on a quarter acre block without any great effort,lots of people did just that in the great depression.

Water though is a much more fragile and valuable recource,Why do you think French Companies such as Violia have bought into Australian Water,And woe betide those treacherous Politicians who helped it to happen.

Typical of these small minded fools wanting to cull the worlds population though,Whatever happened to forward thinking people there is a whole Universe out there to explore,Asteroids that can be mined etc what wonders await those with courage to go beyond where mankind has ventured in the past.

There is plenty of evidence to show population control has been of major concern with the fabian sustainability socialist planners with their U.N agenda. 

Our own obscenely well paid Climate Commissioner who is anything but sustainable & one of his pieces. The Future Eaters by Tim Flannery is a good example of the political spin.

We all need to look around & decide our own level of family risk IMO

http://organichealthadviser.com/archives/polysorbate-80-in-swine-fl...

There has been discussion around the following in some very wealthy persons sponsored immunisation programme. I am not making that link just reporting 3W references.

http://www.pzpinfo.org/pzp_faqs.html

 

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Carbon Tax linked:

5 March 2012

From: Dr.JaneN.OíSullivan UNFCCC Contact Point for Sustainable Population Australia Inc. j.osullivan@uq.edu.au 

http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2012/smsn/ngo/200.pdf

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Hi Ian

These people in the United Nations and associated bodies really do see them selves as 'God' It will be a dreadful scenario if the UN succeed with their plan. I fear for future generations, my own dear little grandchildren.

Amazing the amount of information you always find. We must not shut our eyes to this. Vivienne

Ian Davies said:

There is plenty of evidence to show population control has been of major concern with the fabian sustainability socialist planners with their U.N agenda. 

Our own obscenely well paid Climate Commissioner who is anything but sustainable & one of his pieces. The Future Eaters by Tim Flannery is a good example of the political spin.

We all need to look around & decide our own level of family risk IMO

http://organichealthadviser.com/archives/polysorbate-80-in-swine-fl...

There has been discussion around the following in some very wealthy persons sponsored immunisation programme. I am not making that link just reporting 3W references.

http://www.pzpinfo.org/pzp_faqs.html

 

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Carbon Tax linked:

5 March 2012

From: Dr.JaneN.OíSullivan UNFCCC Contact Point for Sustainable Population Australia Inc. j.osullivan@uq.edu.au 

http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2012/smsn/ngo/200.pdf

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Good to see the Turkish prime minister publicly acknowledge the population control agenda at work...

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/abortion-is-murder-for-the-purpose...

CNN's Ted Turner is another notorious population-control freak - right up there with the likes of Prince Phillip...

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/video-ted-turner-reduce-population...

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