This flirtation with words is an attempt to describe the mournful anxieties of the mind in a desire to re-establish the quality of human decency and respect for those who have suffered from those who have violated their given or greed stolen advantage towards others—the words were written with clear consideration in the quiet small hours of the night.

Their design is to provide an insight into man’s inability to face the facts of his oppression and to stimulate his instinctive determination to protect the heritage of family, friends and others against indecency and human greed stimulated atrocity.

The words are not designed to denigrate or offend the decent people of the globe or those of the theological believing Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu or other religious faith, but to recognise and condemn a minority within the good people of these groups who have evil or malicious agendas—the words are given in the public interest.    

    

 

Do the Australian people Have The Guts?

 

Before I expand this question to those of the JG Community >

Let me say I am enjoying the comments of my initiation with your spontaneity >

But after eighty years of battling a rather wide range of seasonal and legal variability >

It will be found my hide is tougher than a rhinoceros reproductive twin bauble extremities!

   

HOWEVER—LET THE TITLE QUESTION BE ANSWERED IN ALL HONESTY!

 

 The evidence reveals a negative for the people of the Australian Nation >

Having toiled dam hard for two hundred years many are now in liquidation >

Others have endured admirably, without much help from those in administration >

All at a cost of several hundred billion dollars in a mountain of bank debt exploitation!      

 

Being one to have done all this for many years of life’s expectation >

While enjoying both the pleasures and problematic aspects of agriculture >

I notice 73,000 wheat-growers of 1990 have dwindled by 52,000 in their nomenclature >

Therefore, it is true that some Australian people have been led into massive misadventure!

 

The same story is revealed in the history of our manufacturing feat >

Our factories have closed and we import all that we wear and much of what we eat >

While the people struggle with family needs, bank repayments, still critical to the retail elite > 

While the low paid of Asia work on a bench and live underneath on the floor at their aching feet!

 

While mining and agricultural struggle to balance the deficit defeasance >

The politicians and their bureaucrats create more and more crazy tax malfeasance >

While the media obsess the people with football, local crime and social unimportance >

Most Australian folk just struggle and fumble with an individualistic apathetical existence!  

Loaded down with all this individualistic baggage of industry oversight >

 Australians have allowed apathy and local issue to consume their aspectual sight >

  While the politician and the lawyer have stripped away their Fee Simple property rights >

With the Commonwealth Australia Constitution 1900 (UK) Common Law Sovereign Rights!

 

Being more analytical of the average national born Australian defender >

When sent around the world with rifle, bayonet and bullets for a dubious agenda >

It is true they fought like bloody hell when asked to kill two for one by their commander >

But bring them home and ask them to fight for their rights, they shake their heads in wonder!

 

This being the present national predicament—it is a predictive >

That unless the apathetic individual wises up and become vindictive > 

And resorts to peaceful civil disobedient action to enforce their demonstrative >

They’ll end as slaves for foreign corporate owners—not to realise their life’s objective!

       

Colin Uebergang [22/04/2012]

 

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Hi Colin, It may be interesting for the Just Grounds Community to name those who are standing up for ALL Australian's Democratic Rights.

Most Just Grounders are fighting for something in their communities or States as the numerous discussions indicate and they are passionate about their subjects. But whilst we all fight those many important issues we overlook the most important and fundamental right that of having a Democratic Government Elected by ourselves and working for the benefit of the Country and the people. Since 2007 that basic of all rights has been superseded after the Hung Election by a Government who without shame buys votes, lies and without consultation demands the Nation go forward with what our two vote Prime Minister has decided is her vision for the future of Australia and she is determined no Australian Elector will be asked to comment or vote on it. Juliar has spoken and she is prepared to lie, cheat, support thieves and corrupt Politicians in order to ensure our life in Australia will follow in the future the direction she has planned. Even to the extent of boasting she will “Abbott proof “her legislation to stop any changes being made to it by future Governments.

The Mark and Statement of a Dictator. Stalin would be proud of her in  Australia most Australians know she is just a LIAR.

Well it is apparent all Australians are in favour of a Vote NOW to allow them their right of Choice and their say in how Australia is managed in the future.

So what is lacking….Leadership and organization and without leadership we are just a rudderless ship against a bureaucratic conscious less Labor Government. Most Australians have already decided which Party will provide our next PM.

What that person now needs is to come forward and show Leadership, stop pandering to the UN IPCC and the United Nation with half-baked climate change announcements one of which landed in my mail box in the last couple of days. Australians are sick to death of scientific leadership whether from the United Nations or the Gillard /Flannery and the other CSIRO and CC hicks advising her and tell Australians what they want to hear, and if he doesn’t know that he is not the man for the job.

In my Nomination,  for Australians  standing up for our Democracy Rights one sticks out from the crowd, someone with GUTS to challenge the Theft of our Rights and our Land Ownership …. Mr. Peter Spencer and his team  who to their credit and despite overwhelming opposition have never given up.

The Convoy of No Confidence who organized went to Canberra and tried to argue the Case for all Australians, but were fobbed off and treated as second-class Australians by our Labor Government and Julia the Liar Gillard our Prime Minister, but at least they did something they tried.

Note, a copy will be sent to Tony Abbott. Regards Robert WN



Colin, You have nailed it. A comfortable middle class will never sign on. I have no solutions. What  you have said about the Convoy and SFO's and rural people is spot on. Transport companies, meat companies were contacted to enlist support but would not participate, they have all taken the short term gain option.... even RWN's stated number one stander upper scorned it!! (fact) 

Hi Colin, Your Quote in an otherwise very enlightening though somewhat unorthodox reply to me made readable by Dale.

 Quote "However, if some of you younger well-schooled people haven’t the GUTS to stand up and BE COUNTED and listen to a few of us older ones with GUTS, we might as well all go and find a tree."

I agree, Colin, I was born in 1928 and yourself?  And have found over my lifetime that even Putin in a suit is better for Russia today though far from democratic than Stalin was in his years of wearing his normal attire. We both know as do Australians as a whole that Australia needs change of direction and it must start with a change of Leadership and Government. Any ideas of how that change of direction in an orderly fashion can occur are what we all desire to find out and you are furthering the cause in your discussions. But unfortunately without ALL taking part in p****** in the streets in Australia that may or may-not be covered by Medicare for instant bladder failure, it means a change of Government by Election sooner than later.  Otherwise I found your reply contained facts that I being out of Australia many years was quite unaware had taken place. But like the Charge of the Light Brigade they are past history what concerns us are what we as a Nation demand is removed or reactivated ASAP by a new Government.

 I.e. Removed.

Control of Australia by the United Nations or the UNIPCC or by any other unbinding UN Agenda i.e. 21 etc. seized on and adopted and implemented by State Governments and Local Councils bypassing legality by Federal Law.

 This Taxing of the Air we breathe and the control over Coastal waterfront land by Government and Councils because of some fake 100 year in the future United Nations IPCC scientific proven fraudulent statements

Taxing our lifeline of Social and Economic success, our Coal into extinction.

I.e. Reactivated

We demand the preservation of our water supply with new and effective Dams to be built.

The return of our cheap Electricity for household and Industrial use.

With new and effective and cheap to run Coal fired Power Station being built or older ones up dated.

The return of all Australian Constitutional Rights of Land ownership with the Commonwealth to pay for any land it needs to acquire as is/was stated in the Constitution.

 The right of Owner of a veto on who enters his property or to what activity he allows on his land. I.e. Open cut Coal, Gas well drilling or Exploration drilling, installation of Electricity generating Turbines.

The complete veto by the Federal Government on the sale to foreign interests or any adverse activity on Prime Farming and other crop producing land or on any land where it could now or in the future have the potential to interfere with our underground water supplies or make permanent strata changes.

That list should make a start in returning Australia to self-Sovereignty for now and we hope into the future with a Political Party installed in Canberra more sensitive to Australia's interests than to that of an unelected United Nations group who's only interest is forming a World Government with the power to impose it's  Unelected authority over all but ofcourse not North Korea, Zimbabwe, India or America or Canada. Regards Robert WN.

A Copy of this will be sent to Tony Abbott’s office who I suggest faces a mammoth task if elected.

Hi Colin,

Thank you for this discussion and for saying it like it is. The people we have voted for and given our trust to, have betrayed us, that goes for all sides of politics. Some Australians are waking up, including myself.

I have written to all of the Coalition MP's on the subjects of Agenda 21, Corporation Australia & other UN Treaties, to date I have not received one reply. That does not give me confidence that things will change. With the politicians

We have to spread this message far and wide, I spend most of my days doing just that. The press will not do it for us, they are complicit in everything that has gone on.

Still there are those who will call this 'conspiracy theories' they do not do them selves or others any favors.

I just hope your discussion does NOT get moderated.

Many thanks for all the information, I look forward to this conversation. Vivienne

Hi Heather, This written in a friendly Just Grounds way " quote even RWN's stated number one stander upper scorned it!! (fact) " Could you please elaborate. If it is Peter Spencer I think he has had enough mental anguish since he sat up the pole to illustrate the rubbish that had become Government in Australia to allow him to run his race in his own way and just what would taking part in that event have helped in the battles he has had to contend with before or since.  Colin is great he has a vast knowledge but what is his solution ? what is yours?  I say we have to start somewhere, where do you both suggest. Perhaps Australia is already past the point of no return and in that case what reason for Discussions at all. regards Robert WN.
Heather Wallace said:



Colin, You have nailed it. A comfortable middle class will never sign on. I have no solutions. What  you have said about the Convoy and SFO's and rural people is spot on. Transport companies, meat companies were contacted to enlist support but would not participate, they have all taken the short term gain option.... even RWN's stated number one stander upper scorned it!! (fact) 

Thank you Heather.

Heather Wallace said:



Colin, You have nailed it. A comfortable middle class will never sign on. I have no solutions. What  you have said about the Convoy and SFO's and rural people is spot on. Transport companies, meat companies were contacted to enlist support but would not participate, they have all taken the short term gain option.... even RWN's stated number one stander upper scorned it!! (fact) 

Cate-I knew you had a heart of gold under that initial tomboy bouncing about of me. 

Cate Stuart said:

Hmm well Gentlemen, i put it to you that age is not always productive. Life experiences are, without question  the greatest teacher of them all - Just Grounds is blessed to have so many with life experience's.

Those with age, and life experience's on this thread, are the most valuable resources that society has - thank you :)

My great grandmother, passed on so much wisdom to me, however at such a young age, i made the mistake of youth, and do not recall all. - a loss for myself and my children.

However, i do recall, and now i understand what she meant about leadership. To the best of my recall, the intent of her words to me, at age 10 years..

The strongest "leader" among us, is the person who inspires others to stand of their own free will, shoulder to shoulder with them - and lead together as equals.

Only then, will justice, goodness and humanity remain intact.

Without our "leaders" we have nothing.

Without standing as a "leader" we have lost hope.

To inspire, and be truly an Australian ready to support each other, only then will the iconic "mate ship" we all espouse to, be preserved, and a prosperous country, and its people survive.

I do see leadership qualities around me - now, are we ready to unite? I have often asked the question who will stand with me - and so humbled when many have - they do it, as do i for Australia.

Does that answer you questions Colin? (rhetorical, of course..just a reflection of your original post.)

Cheers all, 

Cate :)

Cate-- I am ready for your next verbal fiasco for what I have said in the one I just posted.

Cate Stuart said:

Careful Colin (tic) you might give people the impression i am a nice person..like you, some seem to think "wolf in sheeps clothing" when they refer to me..i prefer to think, best intentions, and telling it like it is..However as you know, sometimes - actually often, one has to be controversial, to entice others out of their "comfort zones" and their judgemental attitudes...and for that mate, "target" miraculously appears on ones back.

My motto, "bring it on"! lol :)

Good work everyone -some very profound ideas here.

On a daily basis i toss up the fight v flight, putting up with the talkers (mainly ABC) and the walkers never getting a say and it is a real drain on ones life if it all seems so hopeless most of the time. I guess it is is in our dna. I am not religeous but I am sure I have been put on this earth to annoy and argue with everyone I come in contact with. Ancestors are Irish and  Gov Bligh on mothers side- guess I had no hope.

 

Most of the time I despair at why I waste time on this site but this disc from you old buggers has probably goaded me on for another couple of months. This comment from above-

 

It was not only Gillard who fobbed off and treated the No Confidence Group as second class Australians, Robert, it was 99% of the primary producers of Australia and their industry leaders who didn’t have a single set of GUTS between them to join the convoy—that’s my opinion. This show of disunity was the greatest national disgrace that there ever was on the rural industries—their leaders are brain dead and their actions are bordering on treason. Have a nice day Robert,

 

This is  so true! I engage all of the above on a daily basis and inspite of all there corrupted funding  running to the millions- their attempts to emulate a live blogsite like this are pathetic. There may not seem many here  but there are 6 replies on the MLA/CCA attempt in the last 10 days and 2 are mine.

The MLA/WWF -target 100 has about 6 brownnose groupies out of the hoped for 100.

Rural Aust bearly has a pulse left and it is really hard to know  what to do. The enemy that we all know about is no problem it is these sneaky bastards that are pretending to be our maaaaate!   that are the first challenge. Somehow we have to remain solvent as -I believe that that is what has broken the last bit of resistance that would have come forward- as COLIN says DEBT buys control!Better stop rambling and get a good nights sleep.

Thanks Alan- I include you in one of the "old buggers" that shame me from sooking too much.

It is Anzac day and my grandfather and his brother that survived the Somme would be ashamed of me if I were to give up and go with the "flow " (while my arse points to the ground)



 

I have found a new link to Target 100. It is on a revolving loop so you will have to be quick. This morning it was first on the list at the top and now it is 4.

Don't forget to read what the first link says about my bete noir, WWF on the way through.

http://american_almanac.tripod.com/green.htm

 

This is  so true! I engage all of the above on a daily basis and inspite of all there corrupted funding  running to the millions- their attempts to emulate a live blogsite like this are pathetic. There may not seem many here  but there are 6 replies on the MLA/CCA attempt in the last 10 days and 2 are mine.

The MLA/WWF -target 100 has about 6 brownnose groupies out of the hoped for 100.

.

Hi Colin

I honestly do believe that if the majority of Australians knew what was happening to them & their Country, courtesy of the Elite Bankers, UN and all the Cohorts and hangers on, you would see a massive riot here, I have said this before and been admonished for it by some, but I feel the problem is too many of us are asleep, hopefully they are beginning to wake up, and when they do the politicians and political parties that have betrayed the Australian people had better take cover.

Lets hope it happens soon! Vivienne

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