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Permalink Reply by Rory Donnellan on April 13, 2012 at 9:42pm

The end of Bob Brown is not the end of the red-green alliance.

The tree-huggers hate human life, and the commies hate peace and prosperity. They may differ slightly in their tactics, but they still share plenty of common ground.

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Permalink Reply by Stephen Cox on April 13, 2012 at 10:02pm

Yes Christine Milne is dangerous for as a true zealot she believes her own BS wheras that looser from South Australia is just a brain dead bimbo who proves my point everytime she opens her mouth.

The Greens though will need a new Deputy since come the next election Adam Bandt will be gone unless he sneakily tries to move to the Senate hoping they get enough of a percentage for Senate seats.

 

The ones who need to watch out though are the ABC and the Lamestream media,For example they will not be looked apon kindly when the average person works out how they were dudded.

Interestingly in the US State of Georgia and elsewhere all sides of Politics have decided to band together and fight against the UN Agenda 21 which is the cause of most of our grief.

Too many people focus on the effect and neglect the cause,Most of the threads on JustGrounds are about things that are a result of Agenda 21 so called sustainability UN Garbage.

Local Enviromental Plans (LEP's) Solar Power scams,Coal Seam Gas,Carbon Tax,Clover Moores stupid Bike Lanes in Sydney the List goes on and it all stems from Agenda 21.

If we really want to wake up Australian's from Apathy send them to Agenda 21 for Dummies on Youtube that will get their attention then the more they look into it they will understand the Global Warming Hoax and the Carbon Tax etc,Loss of soverign rights etc,Even on 2GB the main media forum that tries to expose these bastards only Brian Wilshire on from 10pm weeknights really exposes the treachery the right way by exposing the underlying cause of the effects we see and rail against.

 

No matter where you are in the country you can listen live on the net or on your smartphone or Ipod,you will be surprised at just how many people are becoming aware of what is going on,Labor and the Greens are in for a Hammering at the Elections.

Just remember as I have said before Local Government elections occurr all the time over the country so expose and target your Local traitors,We do not have to wait seemingly powerless and frustrated for the next Federal election to fight back.

Maybe we need a thread dedicated to results for Local Elections so all can see the hopefully changing for the better state of play as we slowly remove the Greens and Labor for their treachery,But we must also make it plain to the Coalition they have to earn our Vote next time as well.

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Permalink Reply by noel porter on April 13, 2012 at 10:09pm

Good evening mates .

Just heard the news about the green leader . PPPPHHHHSSSSTTT! Gone .

Just as I thought .Like a balloon deflating .

Like a rubber doll that sprung  a leak with rough treatment .

Like a tyre being staked.

Like a lizard being flattened on the tar .

Goodbye Bob PPPPHHHHSSSSTTT.

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Permalink Reply by Jeff Hutcho on April 13, 2012 at 10:38pm

Hi Stephen,

I have as recently as last night, seen the effects of talking to politicians outside their understanding, by attending a Q & A with dinner, with two Federal and two State members of the National party.

The first subject was to do with Coal Seam Gas, one of the reasons they were in this area. Of course they had been through a hard night in Gloucester the night before, so that came out in the course of discussion.

In the average politician's mind, coal seam gas drilling requires millions of litres of water, dangerous chemicals and pollution of the aquifers and a dam to hold backflow contaminated water from hydraulic  "frakking".

The usual "Gasland" propaganda that has been brought in by the so-called environmentalists.

Confusion occurred when I brought up the subject of gas fracturing. They run up against a brickwall, could not understand the principle, because they have all been under the influence of the media and enviro rhetoric.

With gas fracturing, it uses frozen to a gel propane gas, mixed with coarse sand or ceramic grains, which is forced down the well at ~ 9000 psi to fracture the shale or coal, and hold the cracks open with the grains.

Then the propane is recovered as it warms up and expands. Being a gas and propane, it does not mix with or put contaminates into solution, leaving them in the ground. It is recoverable along with the natural gas.

And no dam of contaminated water to leach or flood away.

That concept staggered at least three of them, with one asking more questions later.

The second subject was of more confidential nature, which I had to put into writing and had it delivered today. It was to do with procedure and type of information.

Lesson learned - most politicians only have  a basic knowledge of a subject, even if it may be their portfolio.

They depend on others for input - example the CSIRO, to supply them a "module" of information. Again, using the CSIRO as an example, their information may come from the IPCC, or the EA Climate Research Unit in the UK. Any or all of the sources along the line may be tainted, distorted or just plain wrong.

Even politicians, with the best of intentions, can get it wrong. Just imagine the results with politicians that have an agenda.

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Permalink Reply by Barbara lee on April 13, 2012 at 11:50pm

Jeff not only do you look good in green, ops sorry greeeeeeeeeeeeeen tis a gorgeous colour your wearing.

  Have to admire you Jeff you really know what your talking about, enjoyed the reading very interesting.

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Permalink Reply by Barbara lee on April 14, 2012 at 12:48am

You kinder hope people are waking up around you until you get into some conversation here in Reservoir, around where I live Stephen, No that’s not happening.  They have a set voting pattern and boy do they stick to it. The wife’s follow their husband lead because they really don’t know too much about it, ask them how to make homemade sauces and lasagnes and wine, they ace that in.  Yes got a little bit sick of Julia, but then thought voting for Kevin Rudd was a great thing, my ears could not believe what I was hearing,  Hubble and I get so frustrated,  they only was voting for him because he had a lovely smile and was looking handsome, how maddening is that,   Reservoir is a labor seat.

 Doesn’t matter what I vote for here don’t stand a chance.  Thought about just have one big party and plenty of wine and just sit down and explain it with them, but that’s only our st reservoir is a big suburb.

Phil and I do our bit though every teenage kids that come in, we always get into a discussion with them and they really enjoy it, and do go away with a better understanding of who is who, but their mums and dads are just so staunch can’t be told.  And so we have our work cut out for us in this street.  I’ve always said the voting system is wrong, for this very reason, these people vote for the first piece of paper handed to them as well and that’s general labor because they don’t understand it, and just vote for the sake of voting, and most migrants do.  Maybe that’s what Julia is counting on, looking great in their eyes might just get her back in.  Just a very horrible and scary thought, but it’s on the cards in Melbourne.  You would hope differently but we have been there several times and were disappointed each time.

Stephen Cox said:

No matter where you are in the country you can listen live on the net or on your smartphone or Ipod,you will be surprised at just how many people are becoming aware of what is going on,Labor and the Greens are in for a Hammering at the Elections.

Just remember as I have said before Local Government elections occurr all the time over the country so expose and target your Local traitors,We do not have to wait seemingly powerless and frustrated for the next Federal election to fight back.

Maybe we need a thread dedicated to results for Local Elections so all can see the hopefully changing for the better state of play as we slowly remove the Greens and Labor for their treachery,But we must also make it plain to the Coalition they have to earn our Vote next time as well.

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Permalink Reply by Ruth Bonnett on April 14, 2012 at 4:31am

Miranda Devine's blog is a good one:

Good luck with that, considering the Greens are the chief cause of grief to the bush. At least droughts go away with time. The Greens just keep coming.

Click Here

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Permalink Reply by Jan Courtney on April 14, 2012 at 6:37am

 Good points Tony.  I remember after my first visit in a deputation to a Minister for Education many years ago,  going home to my husband and saying "Yes Minister is absolutely true".  The UNELECTED Public Servants have more influence than our elected representatives

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Permalink Reply by Jan Courtney on April 14, 2012 at 8:20am

Dale,  that's an absolute classic  and oh so true.

 

Dale Stiller said:

Paul Zanetti has Bob Brown singing his swan song. 'She did it my way'

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Permalink Reply by Jan Courtney on April 14, 2012 at 8:25am

Denise,  I hope your crystal ball is spot on and that your predictions come true -  that's the only way Australia will become the nation it was before Labor and their hangers on  began destroying it.

Denise Scanlan said:

I predict that at the next Federal election,we will see Labor decimated, the Greens hold reduced considerably, and Independents will be on the nose.

 

 

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Jan Courtney on April 14, 2012 at 8:48am

This is only part of a very informative story in today's Australian:

 

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Senator Milne's rural push provoked a sharp reaction from the Nationals, with Senate leader Barnaby Joyce labelling her an opportunist.

Senator Joyce said that while the Greens' concern for the rapid development of the coal-seam gas industry was reflected in some rural communities, most other Greens policies were anti-bush.

"The Greens have a problem with coal-seam gas, as does the Coalition," Senator Joyce said. "But the Greens also have problems with rodeos, irrigation, live cattle exports, and they want a 50 per cent top tax rate and death duties. They would have us living as hunter-gatherers scrambling for survival on the forest floor.

"I would welcome her (Senator Milne) in some of my communities. Any town hall, any time you want. My tactic would be to simply tell people what her policies are. People know in the back of their minds that the Greens' policies are dangerous."

Veteran Queensland Nationals senator Ron Boswell went further, warning that the disappearance of Senator Brown would make room for "the far Left" to push forward within the Greens. "Without Brown, the far Left and extremists will steamroll over the others and become the new reigning force within the Greens," he said."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/christine-milne-se...

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Barbara lee on April 14, 2012 at 10:21am

Well Cate after reading that, How is Julia going to fair out working with those hard headed women. I can't see how she would even be a match for these women, would run circles around her,  you could even feel the power coming from one or 2 of the photos. This making of the new greens is so bad for Australia.  Julia has done this to us,  or is this calmer coming to pay her back,  but us Aussie are the ones that will pay a very big price.

Cate Stuart said:

Familiarize oneself with the female Greens...Bob Brown has proven to be a very, very smart political strategist. Imho,g assassins.."

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