In the near future, only 2 weeks, there will be a vote in the Senate on the Governments ETS legislation. Climate change & Climate change policy has been discussed at length recently on Agmates including these forums – All roads to Roma; How to block ETS; Right or Wong on climate change & CPRS; ETS voted down in the Senate.

You can make a difference, without leaving home & for very little cost. Out of the discussions listed above a consensus has been arrived at that immediate coordinated action is required by all & sundry to send emails or phone the Senators to encourage them to vote against this flawed legislation.

There needs to be 39 votes against the ETS to have it lost.
The 32 Labor Senators will have to vote down the party line & vote for it or they will basically will face the pre selection firing squad.
The 5 Nationals & Senator Fielding will vote against the bill but it wouldn’t hurt to say, ‘good on you, stick to your guns’.
The 5 Green Senators have released their own amendments to the bill & again they need to be encouraged to not to accept legislation that will do very little for the environment.
That leaves the independent Nick Xenophon & the 32 Liberal Senators. It is this group that is the key & we must target.

Steve is right when he wrote, “You do not have to, nor do you have time to mass educate the Australian public (those efforts can come after the ETS is defeated and before the next federal election whenever that might be).”
You must bear in mind that many people are from a very different background & outlook on life to your own. Many sincerely believe in man made climate change & you aren’t going to change that in two weeks. Instead of getting their backs up, highlight that the Governments ETS legislation will not significantly help the climate or the environment & will place an unfair burden on those who can least afford it.

Here is a list of the Liberal Senators - Click on each ones name to see their full contact details - where they don't have their email listed you can just call their office and get it. Probably best to start with the Senators in your own state.

If you have general comments on climate change or resulting policy please place them in the alternative forums. In this discussion please place short quotes & their sources that may be included in peoples emails. Also you may place a draft of an email if you need help to improve it. We’ll take it that there will be no copyright for others to use sample emails & personalise them for their own use.

UPDATE
At a meeting of Liberal & National Parliamentarians on Sunday 18th Oct, Turnbull has been allowed to negotiate with the Government on amendments on the ETS.

Senator Joyce said it was one thing to say yes to amendments to water down a "ridiculous" and flawed "feel-good tax", but another to vote for the legislation.
"When it gets to the end, the National Party will be consistent, it will not be supporting the bill, full stop, and neither will a lot of other people," Senator Joyce said.


DO NOT WAVER, KEEP SENDING EMAILS, THE VOTE HAS NOT BEEN TAKEN IN THE SENATE.

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"The ETS is a tax on everything.
Some analysts believe the government’s planned Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme will add costs across the economy in just its first year equivalent to increasing the GST to 12.5 per cent. There’s a great political pitch there: the ETS equals whacking 25 per cent on the GST."

The Australian, Oct 13th 2009, Tax by any other name
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“The [Australian] Rudd Government's environmental credentials are in tatters: the Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme has been exposed as sham. This shouldn't be surprising. There isn't one cap-and-trade scheme in the world that has resulted in a reduction in carbon emissions. Instead, such schemes have made money for the biggest polluters and created a new branch of the derivatives industry that creates new wealth opportunities for brokers and financiers.
Kenneth Davidson (respected economics columnist for “The Age” newspaper, Melbourne; co-editor of “Dissent”), 2009
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"To bet the world’s climate system and global environment on an untested approach with such clear structural flaws would appear a reckless gamble. History is lettered with failed institutions. You need only to look today at the wreckage of the current financial system to see the latest example of the effects of failed regulatory and risk-management design."
Professor William Nordhaus (Sterling Professor of Economics, Yale University, USA), March 2009:
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“A cap-and-trade system is very unlikely to reduce global greenhouse gas emissions — and more likely to introduce new, trillion-dollar risks for the financial system. The clearest illustration of the problems with cap-and-trade is the European Trading Scheme, based on the Kyoto protocols covering most of Europe. According to a new report by the Government Accountability Office, there’s little if any evidence that the ETS has had any effect at all on emissions in Europe."
Dr Robert J. Shapiro (Chair, U.S. Climate Task Force and finance consultancy firm Sonecon; undersecretary of commerce for economic affairs in the Clinton Administration), January 2009:
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Their glossy PR material claimed that “under the scheme, Australia’s biggest polluters will pay for the pollution they generate”. But, what the government carefully didn’t say was that the biggest polluters would only pay for on average one tonne in every 5 tonnes of their pollution – the rest of us paid for the other 4 tonnes.”
Guy Pearse (Australian climate and energy commentator), 2008:
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“With the combined impact of falling net prices (farmgate prices net of permit costs) and production, by 2030 the gross value of production, or GVP (net of the permit cost), of beef is projected to fall by $6.6 billion or 28 percent from its business as usual level.”
Australian Farm Institute, Feb. 2009, Some Impacts on Agriculture of an Australian Emissions Trading Scheme
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REGIONAL economies could shrink by more than 20 per cent over the next 40 years under the Rudd Government's emissions trading scheme, according to secret modelling commissioned by the NSW Government but never released." "This loss of GDP is worth around $2 trillion in 2007 prices"
The Australian, March 26th 2009. Study by Frontier Economics
exactly, it's so close to the derivatives doublespeak it should have alarms ringing wildly, already in UK and Eu they have busted fraud scams, funny that the global temp has NOT risen, the ice is fine, and they still manage to ignore those small Facts!
The Emperor IS naked!
Sample email (draft) addressed to Liberal Senators

Dear Senator …………………….,
The proposed ETS legislation that will be voted on in the Senate in the near future is of major concern to me. Weather you believe in man made global warming or not, the fact doesn’t change that this policy is deeply flawed. I believe & nearly everyone that I talk to that by trying to amend a policy with as many failings as this, the end result will still be unworkable. It would be best to vote the bill down.

The Australian electoral may be prepared to withstand financial pain for long term environmental gain but the perverse outcomes of the ETS policy are such that the average person it the future will hardly likely to forgive harsh economic outcomes for very little environmental or climate gain.

Even the man who paid the greatest role in advising the Australian Government on climate change, Ross Garnaut said this week -
“This whole process of policy making over the ETS has been one of the worst examples of policy making we have seen on major issues in Australia.”
ROSS GARNAUT ABC AM program Tuesday, October 13, 2009

Your Sincerely
…………………………………
Sample email (draft) addressed to Green Senators

Dear Senator…………………….
Writing letters to politicians is something that I do not normally do but the ETS legislation soon before the Senate is something that I feel strongly about. I have tried to keep myself informed on this subject and as far as I can ascertain, the Rudd Labor Government is only pretending to do something about climate changed & the policies that they have brought forward will do next to nothing for the environment. The ETS sucks up to the big polluters, makes the brokers & traders richer & takes the money away from those with little economic or political power.

The Greens party it appears to me has the interests of the small Aussie battler at heart, more so than the Labor & Liberal party’s. I ask of you to vote down this very poor example of policy making. In my reading I came across this quote from Dr Vandana Shiva.

“…but the politics is very muddy. Historically, the major polluters were the rich, industrialised countries, so it made sense that they should pay the highest price… Such [Carbon Trading ETS] schemes are more about privatising the atmosphere than about preventing climate change”
“Regulating by carbon trading is like fiddling as Rome burns… We face a stark choice: we can destroy the conditions for human life on the planet by clinging to "free-market" fundamentalism, or we can secure our future by bringing commerce within the laws of ecological sustainability and social justice”.
Dr Vandana Shiva (Indian physicist, feminist, founder of eco-feminism, author of several books and of hundreds of scientific and technical papers, and a very prominent environmental analyst and activist), 2009

Thankyou very much

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Come on Dale. Would you mind giving us a bit of a draft letter that we can alter slightly?
Do you want me to write something a lot rougher? Perhaps I could write like in one of those books, mostly childern stories, where there is muiltible plots & endings depending which option you take up.

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