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A National Energy Plan - Uranium

The Greenies are picketing BHP Billiton Roxby Downs

but do they know why?To ban uranium for energy because of what?

Technology advances otherwise we would still be complaining about that fool who invented the wheel. Russia is to built 12 new type plants in India. Yet here we have the Greens wanting to ban the acid leach in situ process for extraction of uranium because of some ecodoom that even they cannot identify.

But notice the childish, immorality of the Greens to avoid comment about the more deadly and more widely used cyanide heap leach on the surface for the extraction of gold. Not to mention dealing with the rabbit plagues.

The Greens should get out of the way unless they have practical solutions to the problems of progress that they only think they have identified.

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Permalink Reply by Bob Stewart on July 23, 2012 at 5:01pm

Nah, just join a shed.

Dr Caroline Wright said:

Oh!! No pills then?

Fond regards

Caroline

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Permalink Reply by Dr Caroline Wright on July 23, 2012 at 5:06pm

O.K. Have you got one in mind?

Fond regards

Caroline

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Permalink Reply by Jeff Hutcho on July 23, 2012 at 5:15pm

Bro' al,

It appears that Grant B is part of an indigineous development corporation in Port Hedland. And the best to him because of his involvement.

Better than painting rocks white in the 'wilderness'.

alan mikkelsen said:

I wonder if our old (as in former, not age - he was a 'Young Turk' relatively speaking!) Grant B has been investing in Pt Hedland real estate? (Short term future sea level rise always in mind, of course! ;-)

Bob, I hope you are right in China (India or any other potenially significant player) becoming interested in buying something upgraded from our iron ore through use of our energy resources, NG, as forseen by you, to at least sponge iron or wrought iron. Or better still, Aussie steel!! Wouldn't that be great? But the other side of reality is that like Indonesia with live cattle imports, all the emerging economies want to do the upgrading themselves for sociological reasons not directly or hard logically related to basic economics.

If the net equation, Oz iron ore to steel export price - actual upgrading costs = less than the export netback on that old red dust you talk about ......... Gina R is a pretty sharp lady, for sure, and no doubt she easily does these sums.

Cheers bro' al

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Permalink Reply by Bob Stewart on July 23, 2012 at 5:38pm

Not yet, but I'm working on it

Dr Caroline Wright said:

O.K. Have you got one in mind?

Fond regards

Caroline

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Permalink Reply by Dr Caroline Wright on July 23, 2012 at 5:54pm

I am a patient, pretty, petite, pensive and penitent personage (and modest).

Fond regards

Caroline

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Permalink Reply by Bob Stewart on July 23, 2012 at 6:41pm

Interesting Bro Al. But my thoughts are related to the charity at home principle. China has built a $34 billion high speed electric rail network in Brazil that started as a commitment prior to the ore exports from Australia which were not ready, The iron ore then being shipped from Brazil to be converted to steel with the energy from Australia. So a hardly noticeable shift to source the ore from Australia is firstly freight and handling cost and what is not well known, the consistent quality of the ore body.
It has always bothered me that the modern Chinese are way ahead of us in the skills and infrastructure to manufacture for the world. A world that has been happy just to plod along all these past years without thought of a rising powerhouse to overcome the market for machine tools. Having perfected them for wood and metal to such an extent it would be rare now to find a different manufacturer on the shelf for not only the tools, but now a product or component in metal that has not been fashioned in China with them. In the timeline I refer to, Birmingham Small Arms, is no more.
In 2002, I was assigned by FMC Corp of the US to advise their JV partner FMC Kwangshou after repeated machinery breakdown, and a fire and explosion at the hydrogen peroxide plant. A car, an Audi (made in China), met me at Shanghai. All but a few Kms of the 190 Km journey was on a 6 lane concrete highway with all mod cons and on both sides warehouse after warehouse, flashing lights, steam and smoke and webs of power lines.

Should we even bother to develop our skills in areas where it is impossible to compete? On the basis that idle hands are tools of the devil, I wonder now in just what area might we direct our attention for the young.

Cheers Alan
alan mikkelsen said:

I wonder if our old (as in former, not age - he was a 'Young Turk' relatively speaking!) Grant B has been investing in Pt Hedland real estate? (Short term future sea level rise always in mind, of course! ;-)

Bob, I hope you are right in China (India or any other potenially significant player) becoming interested in buying something upgraded from our iron ore through use of our energy resources, NG, as forseen by you, to at least sponge iron or wrought iron. Or better still, Aussie steel!! Wouldn't that be great? But the other side of reality is that like Indonesia with live cattle imports, all the emerging economies want to do the upgrading themselves for sociological reasons not directly or hard logically related to basic economics.

If the net equation, Oz iron ore to steel export price - actual upgrading costs = less than the export netback on that old red dust you talk about ......... Gina R is a pretty sharp lady, for sure, and no doubt she easily does these sums.

Cheers bro' al

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Permalink Reply by Bob Stewart on July 24, 2012 at 6:39am

Indeed, the rarest set of jewels,
While I, a maun among men.
Gentle, caring and considerate. D'ye ken?
But hauf 'is soul a Scot maun use
Indulgin' in illusions
An' hauf in gettin' rid o' them
By arrivin' at conclusions.

Dr Caroline Wright said:

I am a patient, pretty, petite, pensive and penitent personage (and modest).

Fond regards

Caroline

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Permalink Reply by Dr Caroline Wright on July 24, 2012 at 9:48am

Smart Alec.....and I am not, not, not (de)ilusional. This means war as we are back to D-Day.

Fond regards

Caroline

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Permalink Reply by Bob Stewart on July 24, 2012 at 10:28am

I was referring to me, if you read it again
The first lines a compliment, d'ye not ken?
The rest is of me and my moments in life
Striving to settle the demands of a wife.

Dr Caroline Wright said:

Smart Alec.....and I am not, not, not (de)ilusional. This means war as we are back to D-Day.

Fond regards

Caroline

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Permalink Reply by Dr Caroline Wright on July 24, 2012 at 10:39am

I have called the war off then as we will now smoke a piece pipe.

Fond regards

Caroline

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Permalink Reply by Bob Stewart on July 24, 2012 at 11:12am

...and I just recalled that when I married on return from the Korean war, the ceremony at the Church and to the reception was a grand affair with an Honor Guard of fellow officers bows at the pews and flowers everywhere. The congregation was already assembled, we were running late, the bride and her father being driven round and around the block. The organist was fired up for the delay having already played Handel's Messiah 4 times. Unknown to the three of us, groom,best man and groomsman, we were supposed to slide unseen in the back door to stand facing the alter as if we were about to be shot. but being late we came in the front door and quietly tip toed down the aisle trying to remember the order of the service which my beloved and I had been memorizing after the practice run. " You are at the altar with the best man on your port side, the groomsman outboard of him. (We were all Navy men) Watch her come to you slowly down the aisle with her maids and wait for the hymn after you have kissed the bride"

On the way in and much shaking of hands with comrades accompanied by, "Goodby ", "Been great to know you", _"Can she cook?, etc., I was yet to encounter the true intentions of her mother when a long time later a friend confided in me that as my beloved was slowly keeping step down the aisle with "Here Comes the Bride", he overheard her muttering over and over to herself, "I'll alter him"

Bob Stewart said:

I was referring to me, if you read it again
The first lines a compliment, d'ye not ken?
The rest is of me and my moments in life
Striving to settle the demands of a wife.

Dr Caroline Wright said:

Smart Alec.....and I am not, not, not (de)ilusional. This means war as we are back to D-Day.

Fond regards

Caroline